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    Congressional Quarterly
    CQ Transcriptions
    September 28, 2005 Wednesday

    KAREN HUGHES PARTICIPATES IN AN INTERFAITH DIALOGUE WITH RELIGIOUS
    LEADERS AT TOPKAPI PALACE

    SPEAKER:
    KAREN HUGHES, UNDERSECRETARY OF STATE FOR PUBLIC DIPLOMACY AND PUBLIC
    AFFAIRS

    LOCATION: ISTANBUL, TURKEY

    UNDERSECRETARY HUGHES PARTICIPATES IN AN INTERFAITH
    DIALOGUE WITH RELIGIOUS LEADERS AT TOPKAPI PALACE,
    AS RELEASED BY THE STATE DEPARTMENT

    SEPTEMBER 28, 2005

    SPEAKERS: KAREN HUGHES, UNDERSECRETARY OF STATE
    FOR PUBLIC DIPLOMACY AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS

    DINA POWELL, ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF STATE
    FOR EDUCATION AND CULTURAL AFFAIRS

    ILBER ORTAYLI, DIRECTOR OF TOPKAPI PALACE




    ORTAYLI: Mrs. Undersecretary, Your Highness, Your Eminence, ladies
    and gentlemen, this is not the first time that the spiritual heads of
    the communities came to this palace and won't be the last. We are
    very happy to have you here, madam, and leave you for your meeting.
    Thank you for coming.

    HUGHES: Thank you so much. The tour was wonderful. Thank you. What a
    fabulous setting. It's beautiful. Well, it's an honor and great
    pleasure to be with you here this afternoon at this beautiful Topkapi
    Palace. It's just a gorgeous place. We've just had a wonderful quick
    tour, a little too quick. I'll have to come back when I can spend
    more time. But I'm so glad that you are here, and I want to thank the
    Government of Turkey for helping to make it available to us.

    My brief tour helped bring some of Istanbul's remarkable history to
    life for me, and I sincerely want to thank all the palace staff. I
    want to thank also each of you personally for joining this meeting. I
    understand there is an important interfaith meeting under way right
    now in Hatay. Some of you came from there and changed your schedules
    to be here with me. I really, really appreciate that and look forward
    to learning more about the meeting that you had there.

    I'm here on my first trip abroad, really to listen and to learn. One
    of the things that President Bush, my boss, told me as I began this
    job was to take the time to reach out and meet with religious leaders
    -- because faith is such an important part of life for so many
    Americans and so many people across the world and, I think, to build
    better bridges of understanding and mutual respect it's very
    important to work with members of the faith community. In fact, I
    have to say that you can probably blame President Bush for this
    meeting, because he met with many of the same group when he was here.
    He said that it was one of the most important and interesting and
    fascinating meetings of his presidency because there is such a rich
    mosaic here -- not only of the history of Turkey but the history of
    so many important faith traditions. So, one of the things I've
    learned just during my very short time here in Turkey already, just
    today, is that the people of Turkey and the people of America share a
    language, I think, of the heart. This is a very warm and welcoming
    and hospitable place and that language of caring and concern is also
    very apparent in the wonderful outpouring of generosity that we
    experienced not only from the Government of Turkey, but also from the
    people of Turkey in the aftermath of the staggering natural disaster
    that we faced with Hurricane Katrina. I want to take this opportunity
    to express the gratitude of the American people to each and every
    person here in Turkey who brought a dollar or came by with a donation
    to our American Embassy. It meant so much to the people of my
    country.

    We also share many values between the people of America and the
    people of Turkey: family, democracy, a belief in human rights and the
    importance of interfaith understanding and tolerance. And so I'm
    really here to listen to each of you, and I very much look forward to
    our discussion together. Thank you all for your time and for joining
    me here today.

    Would each of you like to say a few words? One thing -- when you have
    a meeting of religious leaders, they are all so nice and tolerant
    that everyone defers to everyone else. (Laughter). But please.

    MUSTAFA CAGRICI, MUFTI OF ISTANBUL: (Translated text) First of all, I
    would like to thank you very much for coming here and for inviting us
    here. I would also like to thank the distinguished religious leaders
    who have given me the first word. Especially democracy, family and
    interfaith relations are some common points that Turkey and the U.S.
    share, and you emphasize this. Now, I find this very meaningful, and
    I think these are very important points. Indeed, in the Western world
    -- and, of course, everywhere in the Western world in line with the
    rise of democracy -- family and interfaith relations did not develop
    at the same pace and with the same sound foundation, unfortunately.
    But I think that the United States has an important place and has
    some unique features. Turkey and the U.S. also share the fact that
    they attach importance to the family and to faith and to tolerance.
    So, I agree with what you have said and congratulate you on this very
    perceptive remark. And I will happy to say a few more words when it
    is my turn. Thank you very much.

    MESROB MUTAFYAN, ARMENIAN PATRIARCH: It is a pleasure to meet you in
    Istanbul. We ourselves were just participating, as you mentioned, in
    a meeting of civilizations in Antioch, where we discussed the common
    problems that we will face worldwide and the role of religion. Not
    only in building up civilization, but also as a remedy to many of the
    problems that we live through today -- particularly living in the
    Near East or at the tip of Europe. We are particularly concerned
    about this West and East -- the blocs and the way that especially
    some thinkers are trying to promote a clash between civilizations.
    This is one of the main points that we discuss in these meetings --
    and how to solve issues of this sort in terms of culture and religion
    especially. And how religious ministers could lead opinions which
    affect public opinion. So, it is particularly important for us in
    that sense that you are interested in bringing together the various
    religions and traditions in this country as you visit. We are
    grateful for this interest. Thank you.

    ISAK HALEVA, CHIEF RABBI: (Translated text) First of all, let me say
    "welcome" before everything else. You have honored us with your
    presence and your smiling face gives us a lot of energy. Of course,
    between Turkey and the U.S. there have been wonderful relations in
    the past that will continue in the future -- because both the U.S.
    and Turkey have some common points with respect to faith, to
    cultures, to family. These are the things the two countries share.
    So, thank you very much for developing this nice atmosphere further.
    I believe that today, all around the world, religions can live in
    peace. This will certainly eliminate many problems in the world,
    because religions in the past did cause some conflicts. But today,
    there are other reasons apart from religion to fight. So, maybe
    religions can go back to their essential duty of promoting peace and
    love. Thank you very much for showing sensitivity and interest. I am
    sure you will succeed in your task. We are very hopeful about this.
    Thank you very much. May God be with you and be with us.

    HUGHES: Thank you so much.

    YUSUF CETIN, SYRIAN METROPOLITAN: I would like to bid you a warm
    welcome to Istanbul. Last June, we had the chance to be present
    during the visit of Mr. Bush. We had a wonderful atmosphere a very
    useful meeting then and I am sure that today's meeting will also be
    very beneficial for everyone. Religious leaders and religious
    officers must pray to contribute to world peace. You, the
    politicians, I think can emphasize peace more. I think that for world
    peace, religious leaders and politicians are the two parties that
    have very big tasks to fulfill, more than ever today. We need to pray
    much more for world peace, and politicians need to work much more
    seriously for world peace. Religious leaders, of course, are not
    politicians, but for world peace we are ready to discuss any topic,
    we are ready to be present at any gathering so long as it calls for
    peace to reign all over the world -- because we have the tears and
    screams of war. These make all countries in the world very troubled.
    We believe that when there are good intentions in a meeting like
    this, God will hear our voice, respond to our goodwill and hopefully
    will show us good days in the future. Thank you.

    HUGHES: Thank you so much.

    Let me introduce Dina Powell. Dina, would you like to speak? Dina is
    my deputy and our Assistant Secretary for Education and Cultural
    Affairs. One of the things I have asked her to do as she leads
    America's exchange programs is to really look at people who influence
    young people. People like all of you in this room. As you know, faith
    leaders, clerics, religious leaders have enormous influence, and I've
    asked her to consider exchange programs that would help foster
    interfaith dialogue and a spirit of tolerance and understanding and
    so.

    POWELL: Thank you. It is a great honor for me to be here, to meet
    with all of you, and I want to second everything that Karen just
    said. You are not only amazing leaders of faith, but like you said,
    you really are leaders of people and of societies. And yes, two days
    ago, when we were in Cairo, we had the privilege of meeting the Grand
    Sheik Tantawi of Al-Azar University, and then we met with His
    Holiness Pope Shenouda. They, like you, are amazing examples. And so
    I really hope that we can invite you to come to the United States and
    share how wonderful it is to be men of faith who respect each other's
    faith -- because, of course, the God of all of us believes in
    tolerance and love, and I know you are living it every single day. We
    really are so honored to use you as amazing role models and are
    looking forward to working with you. Thank you very much.

    HUGHES: Professor, would you like to say a few words?

    AKIF AYDIN, ISLAMIC RESEARCH CENTER PRESIDENT: (Translated Text) I
    would like to say welcome to all of you. One thing I would like to
    add to what has been said so far is that people of different
    religions and different cultures can live together. I think one of
    the best places to discuss the problems of such coexistence is this
    very city, because in this city, in this geography -- for at least
    six centuries, people of different cultural and religious backgrounds
    have lived together. We have a lot of experience in this field. And I
    hope that this experience will serve the population of the whole
    world. Thank you very much and welcome once more.

    HUGHES: Thank you so much. Monsignor, would you like --

    FATHER DOSITHEOS, REPRESENTATIVE OF ECUMENICAL PATRIARCHATE:
    (Translated text) Most of the important things have been expressed.
    Let me tell you another story. Turkey is a very nice country. It is
    beautiful, and the evidence that made me think of this is that I
    spent 35 years of my life in Germany. I was born in Kadikoy, and I
    left this country in 1961, vowing never to come back. But 35 years
    later, I came back to Turkey. The nice thing about Turkey is that
    Anatolian lands and soils are holy lands and holy soils. As you get
    old like me, you understand this. The problems of Turkey are problems
    that concern everyone -- positive thinking is required, and all kinds
    of opinions are positive contributions. Welcome to this very
    beautiful country. I have also one sentence to say about the States:
    when I was a child, America to me resembled the Statute of Liberty,
    and I still believe that. Your presence today opens up the avenues
    for liberty. I hope you will assist us in solving our problems
    through avenues of liberty and freedom. I would like to greet you
    all. Thank you very much.

    HUGHES: Thank you. I'm going to call on the Monsignor. But first I
    wanted to quickly say that at my last stop here in Istanbul, I
    visited a park -- a wonderful volunteer program, an after-school
    program for young children. One of the young women there who
    volunteers -- she's a teenager and she volunteers, working with the
    younger children -- she asked me, does the Statue of Liberty really
    mean anything or is it just a symbol? I told her it really means
    something, and someone commented to me that the Statue of Liberty
    faces out and says welcome -- and we very much in our country want to
    face out and say welcome. We want to partner with the people of
    Turkey. We want Turkish students and clerics and faith leaders and
    teachers and all sorts of citizens to come visit our country. We want
    Americans to come visit Turkey and to learn more about Turkey and I
    was pleased as I was touring the palace to see a couple of people
    from Texas, and a couple from New York. and also a couple from
    Bahrain on their honeymoon. This is a wonderful city that welcomes
    many, many visitors, and you do have a unique opportunity, I think,
    to really focus on the values that we all have in common as human
    beings.

    MONSIGNOR GEORGES MAROVITCH, CATHOLIC BISHOP: (Translated text) I am
    here as the spokesman of the Catholic communities in Turkey. I would
    like to welcome you on behalf of all Catholic communities in Turkey.
    I know that this great country is going through many problems; please
    be assured that we will pray for world peace, and we will support you
    through our prayers.

    As you know, Turkey has a very important history. For centuries,
    people of different ethnic and religious backgrounds have lived
    together. In that sense, Turkey is a very experienced country and a
    very experienced nation. It can teach others many lessons like we
    have this wonderful bunch of flowers. And Turkey is just like this
    there are yellow flowers, red flowers, purple flowers. And here, we
    are people of different religions, and we will always have our Muslim
    brothers respecting us. They have done so in the past they have
    treated us with love and respect.

    I will give you a small example. I do not know if you have had a
    chance to see, but we have a very large institution set up in the
    19th century. It is a nursing home called Darulacize. It is for the
    elderly and for babies, infants deserted by their parents. In the
    19th century, this institution was set up and at that time there was
    no other institution in Europe that would open up its doors to people
    of different religions. But the Sultan here set up one mosque, one
    synagogue and one church in that nursing home, so that everyone could
    worship according to their own religion. This can be an example to
    the whole world. Turks drew this idea from their holy book, from the
    Koran: In the 5-28 verse of the Maide Surah it says, "If God wished
    to create you as single nation, he would have done so but he wanted
    you to be of different faiths, so that you would raise your beauties
    and compete with your beauties." This competition has been going on
    for centuries but sometimes in that competition, some of us stumbled
    and some of us made others fall down. We have had some unpleasant
    events. But we are now making very big strides. In Antioch, as you
    know, we had this big conference for interfaith dialogue regarding
    working together for world peace. In Turkey, we have been having
    similar events very often, so we are very hopeful about the future.
    Turkey should be a model and example for the world.

    I would like to conclude here by saying that you should be sure that
    there is only one assistant in our work -- that is God, Allah.
    Muslims pray a lot every day -- they pray 5 times -- and through
    their prayers, Allah, God, protects our world. As you know, the month
    of Ramadan is coming. They will be fasting for 30 days, they will be
    praying, and these prayers will fall on earth just like raindrops
    that will bring good crops. Our great country, Turkey, and the whole
    world will benefit from them. Thank you very much.

    HUGHES: Thank you so much. We have much to learn from the rich
    history and tradition of Turkey, and I'm here to learn. I want to
    thank the press for being here, and we look forward to continuing our
    meeting in just a minute. Thank you all.

    END
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