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EXPERTS SPLIT ON 'NAKBA LAW'
Ynetnews
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0, 7340,L-3720926,00.html
May 25 2009
Israel
Approval of motion to prohibit events marking Palestinian Arab
'catastrophe' of Israel's inception raises concerns among legal
experts. Tel Aviv University law expert calls motion 'foolish', while
Sha'arei Mishpat law professor says motion legitimate, 'people forget
where we are living'
Daniel Edelson Published: 05.25.09, 09:10 / Israel News
The motion approved by the Ministerial Committee on Legislation
on Sunday to ban Nakba Day, that refers to the refugee flight of
Palestinian Arabs following Israel's inception, has caused a storm
among legal experts and intellectuals, who say human rights and
the freedom of expression, that have been the guidelines to Israeli
democracy, will suffer a difficult blow.
"To what level of stupidity can they sink?" wondered Dr. Eyal Gross,
a constitutional law expert at Tel Aviv University, "it's the kind
of law that tries to make everyone think the same way. I don't know
of any similar laws in any democratic country."
According to the motion, that was brought before the committee by
Knesset Member Alex Miller (Yisrael Beiteinu), anyone marking Nakba
Day could receive up to three years in jail.
The Ministerial Committee on Legislation approved the motion despite
the objection of a number of ministers and the attorney general's
representative, and it will be put before the Knesset for a first
reading next week.
Advocate Theodor Schwarzberg, an expert on the High Court of Justice
and human rights says the new law threatens the freedom of expression.
"Anyone who wants to mark Independence Day as a Nakba - is entitled
to. I can understand concerns that marking this day could easily
turn into incitement against Israel, but in such a cause there are
legal restraints.
"The criminal law determines the line between freedom of expression
and incitement against the State. Therefore, there is no need for the
'Nakba law'. In any case, it will be very difficult for it to pass
the test of the High Court of Justice."
Schwarzberg continued to say that "the general trend in the enlightened
world is to limit freedom of expression as little as possible. Not
only does this bill go against the trends of the democratic world -
but it is also very problematic from a constitutional point of view".
Dr. Gross says laws like the 'Nakba law' are a thing of the past: "Even
in the patriotic United States there is a well known Supreme Court
ruling that says the law prohibiting flag burning is unconstitutional."
According to Gross,despite the fact that the totalitarianism of the
Soviet Union has fallen, it seems that someone in the Knesset longs
for the days in which there was only one truth, that was dictated by
the government.
'Forbid Jews to complain about anti-Semitism' "You can travel to
communist China, where freedom of expression is not particularly
strong, and you can join the Turks, who are always agitated when
the Armenians say they have been wronged. Why not pass a law that
forbids Jews to complain about anti-Semitism because it may offend
someone?" he wondered.
President of the Association for Civil Rights in Israel, author Sami
Michael expressed a similar opinion. "In the last year, we have been
witnessing a disturbing deterioration in the protection of the freedom
of expression and the upholding of democratic values," he said.
"Marking Nakba Day is no threat on the State of Israel's security,
but the legitimate basic right of every person, group or people to
express their pain following a catastrophe. This is not just about
the rights of the Arab minority but about safely crossing all lines
towards the brutal oppression of everyone's freedom of expression."
Meanwhile, there are those intellectuals that believe the legislation
of a 'Nakba law" is legitimate. Professor Eliav Shuchtman of the
Sha'arei Mishpat law school, says, "The State has the right to
educate the public and mold the citizens' character, even through
tools of legislation."
Shuchtman told Ynet, "I don't see anything wrong with a State that
proclaims it is Jewish not giving legitimization to the denial of
it being so. Imagine US Jews declaring a day of morning on July 4 -
that would be unacceptable.
"How can citizens view the birthday of the country they live in as
illegitimate? People forget where we are living. There is a struggle
for our land here. In terms of international law, it is the Jewish
people's right to establish a Jewish State here in the Land of Israel.
"Claims being made these days that it is a state of all its
citizens is against international law and what was written in the
British Mandate. The moment the Arab public in the country says the
establishment of a Jewish State is a catastrophe, it contradicts not
only the Zionist outlook, but also the principles of international
law. Just as I don't have the right to defame people in the street,
they do not have the right to defame the State."
Ynetnews
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0, 7340,L-3720926,00.html
May 25 2009
Israel
Approval of motion to prohibit events marking Palestinian Arab
'catastrophe' of Israel's inception raises concerns among legal
experts. Tel Aviv University law expert calls motion 'foolish', while
Sha'arei Mishpat law professor says motion legitimate, 'people forget
where we are living'
Daniel Edelson Published: 05.25.09, 09:10 / Israel News
The motion approved by the Ministerial Committee on Legislation
on Sunday to ban Nakba Day, that refers to the refugee flight of
Palestinian Arabs following Israel's inception, has caused a storm
among legal experts and intellectuals, who say human rights and
the freedom of expression, that have been the guidelines to Israeli
democracy, will suffer a difficult blow.
"To what level of stupidity can they sink?" wondered Dr. Eyal Gross,
a constitutional law expert at Tel Aviv University, "it's the kind
of law that tries to make everyone think the same way. I don't know
of any similar laws in any democratic country."
According to the motion, that was brought before the committee by
Knesset Member Alex Miller (Yisrael Beiteinu), anyone marking Nakba
Day could receive up to three years in jail.
The Ministerial Committee on Legislation approved the motion despite
the objection of a number of ministers and the attorney general's
representative, and it will be put before the Knesset for a first
reading next week.
Advocate Theodor Schwarzberg, an expert on the High Court of Justice
and human rights says the new law threatens the freedom of expression.
"Anyone who wants to mark Independence Day as a Nakba - is entitled
to. I can understand concerns that marking this day could easily
turn into incitement against Israel, but in such a cause there are
legal restraints.
"The criminal law determines the line between freedom of expression
and incitement against the State. Therefore, there is no need for the
'Nakba law'. In any case, it will be very difficult for it to pass
the test of the High Court of Justice."
Schwarzberg continued to say that "the general trend in the enlightened
world is to limit freedom of expression as little as possible. Not
only does this bill go against the trends of the democratic world -
but it is also very problematic from a constitutional point of view".
Dr. Gross says laws like the 'Nakba law' are a thing of the past: "Even
in the patriotic United States there is a well known Supreme Court
ruling that says the law prohibiting flag burning is unconstitutional."
According to Gross,despite the fact that the totalitarianism of the
Soviet Union has fallen, it seems that someone in the Knesset longs
for the days in which there was only one truth, that was dictated by
the government.
'Forbid Jews to complain about anti-Semitism' "You can travel to
communist China, where freedom of expression is not particularly
strong, and you can join the Turks, who are always agitated when
the Armenians say they have been wronged. Why not pass a law that
forbids Jews to complain about anti-Semitism because it may offend
someone?" he wondered.
President of the Association for Civil Rights in Israel, author Sami
Michael expressed a similar opinion. "In the last year, we have been
witnessing a disturbing deterioration in the protection of the freedom
of expression and the upholding of democratic values," he said.
"Marking Nakba Day is no threat on the State of Israel's security,
but the legitimate basic right of every person, group or people to
express their pain following a catastrophe. This is not just about
the rights of the Arab minority but about safely crossing all lines
towards the brutal oppression of everyone's freedom of expression."
Meanwhile, there are those intellectuals that believe the legislation
of a 'Nakba law" is legitimate. Professor Eliav Shuchtman of the
Sha'arei Mishpat law school, says, "The State has the right to
educate the public and mold the citizens' character, even through
tools of legislation."
Shuchtman told Ynet, "I don't see anything wrong with a State that
proclaims it is Jewish not giving legitimization to the denial of
it being so. Imagine US Jews declaring a day of morning on July 4 -
that would be unacceptable.
"How can citizens view the birthday of the country they live in as
illegitimate? People forget where we are living. There is a struggle
for our land here. In terms of international law, it is the Jewish
people's right to establish a Jewish State here in the Land of Israel.
"Claims being made these days that it is a state of all its
citizens is against international law and what was written in the
British Mandate. The moment the Arab public in the country says the
establishment of a Jewish State is a catastrophe, it contradicts not
only the Zionist outlook, but also the principles of international
law. Just as I don't have the right to defame people in the street,
they do not have the right to defame the State."