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ARMENIANS WILL COMPLAIN ABOUT TURKEY
Hurriyet
March 30 2010
Turkey
The Armenian people get up each morning thinking of genocide, talking
about Turkey during the day and watch news on TV about Erdogan before
going to bed. Of course, I am exaggerating but I see the same things
here in Armenia that I used to experience in Greece.
Previously when I came to Armenia people would talk about genocide
but not this much. During the Soviet term a struggle for genocide was
forbidden. People would argue about it but it wouldn't be carried as
far as a fight with Turkey. With the dispersion of the Soviet Union
and the independence of Armenia this passion increased. Since my last
visit in 2000 everything has gotten out of control.
Today's passion is best described by Dr. Hovanisyan of the Yerevan
University:
"For us genocide is the start of a history, being kicked out of heaven
meant starting from scratch, a milestone. It is our collective memory.
As long as Turkey does not accept genocide no relationship can be put
on track. Accept it and forget about it, there is no other way. That
way we'd stop playing a mutual game."
Genocide is a passion now.
Ignoring genocide means ignoring the Armenian presence, people started
to believe something as unrealistic as "fire won't burn."
You might guess how big an excitement and political argument emerged
in respect to the signed protocols in such an environment. In Turkey
this subject remained within the frame of the opposition-administration
fight. The border lines of this argument have expanded. Here it has
created an effect as if a dynamite exploded.
Sarkisian is in a difficult situation, Erdogan is being questioned
President Sarkisian took on a great risk in political respect when
he gave a green light to the protocols. For, according to some,
he made a historic mistake in respect to genocide.
"Do you know what it means to sent the genocide issue before the
historians commission? It means to reopen an issue which we made
the world accept and to create suspicion as to whether it was right
or wrong which would mean destroying a work done over the past 100
years," says the Armenian expert.
He also says, "Historians won't be able to agree on a mutual decision.
One will say there has been genocide committed. The other will say
no there hasn't. Our opportunity to make Turkey accept or have the
parliament approve of it will be destroyed."
Hovanisyan's reply to the question what would Armenia's answer be
in case Turkey would want to apply to the The Hague's International
Court of Justice together with Armenia was the following:
"Why would I go to the International Court of Justice? I am not
after anything. What would I want to prove? Genocide is for real,
why would I want to argue over it?"
Now this is the suspicion part of Armenians and part of the diaspora
seriously carries. That is the reason why Sarkisian is in a difficult
position.
If the protocols are not approved Turkey experiences a loss in
different ways. I.e. it will lose the opportunity to freeze genocide
allegations or put them on hold.
Erdogan has a strange reputation here.
On one side they praise him for his brave steps and applaud him as
a leader who started initiatives no one else could. They believe if
one day a solution is to be found Erdogan will find it. Especially
the Armenian community in Turkey for the first time praises Erdogan
as a Turkish Prime Minister.
On the other side he is criticized for being a leader who allies with
the Armenians and would deport illegal Armenian workers which revives
in them previous exile days. And even attempts of a gesture like
apologizing to the leaders of the Armenian community in Istanbul or
opening the Armenian church on the island of Akdamar for worshipping
once a year did not satisfy people. I met people saying, "What does
opening the church for worship once a year mean? It's like a donation.
If you want to do some good then keep it constantly open..."
Like an academic said in respect to Erdogan, "Can't live with him,
can't live without him."
We can't wait for too long
The Armenians are about to attack in a diplomatic way.
"We will knock on the doors of those who were standing behind our two
ministers of foreign affairs and applauding while they were signing
the protocols to ask them to make Turkey comply with its signature,"
says an upper level official. He continued saying that the first step
will be taken in April in Washington with President Obama and others
will follow because they are not willing to wait for months. He also
said, "As we wait, the Azerbaijanis will become stiffer in respect to
Karabag. And since they have leaned their backs on Turkey, negotiations
are becoming a drag."
So, do we know what will happen in case the protocols are approved
and borders opened? Will the Armenian become richer? What will happen?
I will talk about it tomorrow.
Hurriyet
March 30 2010
Turkey
The Armenian people get up each morning thinking of genocide, talking
about Turkey during the day and watch news on TV about Erdogan before
going to bed. Of course, I am exaggerating but I see the same things
here in Armenia that I used to experience in Greece.
Previously when I came to Armenia people would talk about genocide
but not this much. During the Soviet term a struggle for genocide was
forbidden. People would argue about it but it wouldn't be carried as
far as a fight with Turkey. With the dispersion of the Soviet Union
and the independence of Armenia this passion increased. Since my last
visit in 2000 everything has gotten out of control.
Today's passion is best described by Dr. Hovanisyan of the Yerevan
University:
"For us genocide is the start of a history, being kicked out of heaven
meant starting from scratch, a milestone. It is our collective memory.
As long as Turkey does not accept genocide no relationship can be put
on track. Accept it and forget about it, there is no other way. That
way we'd stop playing a mutual game."
Genocide is a passion now.
Ignoring genocide means ignoring the Armenian presence, people started
to believe something as unrealistic as "fire won't burn."
You might guess how big an excitement and political argument emerged
in respect to the signed protocols in such an environment. In Turkey
this subject remained within the frame of the opposition-administration
fight. The border lines of this argument have expanded. Here it has
created an effect as if a dynamite exploded.
Sarkisian is in a difficult situation, Erdogan is being questioned
President Sarkisian took on a great risk in political respect when
he gave a green light to the protocols. For, according to some,
he made a historic mistake in respect to genocide.
"Do you know what it means to sent the genocide issue before the
historians commission? It means to reopen an issue which we made
the world accept and to create suspicion as to whether it was right
or wrong which would mean destroying a work done over the past 100
years," says the Armenian expert.
He also says, "Historians won't be able to agree on a mutual decision.
One will say there has been genocide committed. The other will say
no there hasn't. Our opportunity to make Turkey accept or have the
parliament approve of it will be destroyed."
Hovanisyan's reply to the question what would Armenia's answer be
in case Turkey would want to apply to the The Hague's International
Court of Justice together with Armenia was the following:
"Why would I go to the International Court of Justice? I am not
after anything. What would I want to prove? Genocide is for real,
why would I want to argue over it?"
Now this is the suspicion part of Armenians and part of the diaspora
seriously carries. That is the reason why Sarkisian is in a difficult
position.
If the protocols are not approved Turkey experiences a loss in
different ways. I.e. it will lose the opportunity to freeze genocide
allegations or put them on hold.
Erdogan has a strange reputation here.
On one side they praise him for his brave steps and applaud him as
a leader who started initiatives no one else could. They believe if
one day a solution is to be found Erdogan will find it. Especially
the Armenian community in Turkey for the first time praises Erdogan
as a Turkish Prime Minister.
On the other side he is criticized for being a leader who allies with
the Armenians and would deport illegal Armenian workers which revives
in them previous exile days. And even attempts of a gesture like
apologizing to the leaders of the Armenian community in Istanbul or
opening the Armenian church on the island of Akdamar for worshipping
once a year did not satisfy people. I met people saying, "What does
opening the church for worship once a year mean? It's like a donation.
If you want to do some good then keep it constantly open..."
Like an academic said in respect to Erdogan, "Can't live with him,
can't live without him."
We can't wait for too long
The Armenians are about to attack in a diplomatic way.
"We will knock on the doors of those who were standing behind our two
ministers of foreign affairs and applauding while they were signing
the protocols to ask them to make Turkey comply with its signature,"
says an upper level official. He continued saying that the first step
will be taken in April in Washington with President Obama and others
will follow because they are not willing to wait for months. He also
said, "As we wait, the Azerbaijanis will become stiffer in respect to
Karabag. And since they have leaned their backs on Turkey, negotiations
are becoming a drag."
So, do we know what will happen in case the protocols are approved
and borders opened? Will the Armenian become richer? What will happen?
I will talk about it tomorrow.