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AYAZ MUTALIBOV'S INTERVIEW
http://www.xocali.net/EN/ayaz-mutalibov.html
KHOJALY: The chronicle of unseen forgery and falsification
The first president of Azerbaijan recently gave an extremely
interesting interview to one of the Russian TV channels in which it is
narrated that the first president of Azerbaijan, who proclaimed the
independence of the country, at present is living in the outskirts
of Moscow in a state apartment, without a passport and livelihood.
An ordinary refugee with triumphal past and rather obscure future.
This is how the Azerbaijani treat their leaders when the power passes
to other hands.
According to the reportage: "The ruling class of the Alievs did
everything so that the citizens should consider Heydar Aliev to be
the founder of their country and
should forget that they had ever had a first president. It is already
15 years that Ayaz Mutalibov has been wanted by the police in his
country. Heydar Aliev accused him of plotting coup d'etat.
Mutalibov denies the accusation but does not return to his homeland no
to be taken to prison. He is considered as an enemy in his motherland
and Ayaz Mutalibov is not admitted even by the Azerbaijani community
in Moscow".
"He ran to Moscow two months after his resignation and two days
after the feeble attempt to return to the President's palace. When
the armed supporters of the opposition went out to the streets to
demand the president's resignation, Mutalibov went to the Russian
military airport and, leaving his family in Baku, escaped from the
country. Now he avoids speaking about this fact, but it is certain
that Mutalibov preferred to save himself and only after several days
his friends took his family in cars first to Daghestan and then to
Moscow. He has been an exile since then: a guest to Russia, an enemy
to Azerbaijan, an enemy to Armenia".
"The whole negative after the Khojaly tragedy was focused on me. I had
to take the whole responsibility upon myself though I was not guilty
of anything", - claimed Ayaz Mutalibov in the interview. Let us remind
you that on the 2nd of April in 1992, in "Nezavisimaya gazeta" Ayaz
Mutalibov gave an interview to an independent Czech journalist, Dana
Mazalova, who afterwards became persecuted in her own country. The
cause of all these trials was the excessive frankness of the first
president which cost him his impeachment. During the interview it
became quite clear that the Azerbaijani version of the Khojaly events
is none other than a well-planned provocation of the Azerbaijani.
The clan of the Alievs did not forgive Mutalibov for such frankness.
>>From the interview of the former president of Azerbaijan Ayaz
Mutalibov to the Czech journalist Dana Mazalova, "Njvaya Gazeta",
2.04.92
Question:What is your opinion about the KHOJALY events after which
you resigned? Dead bodies of the Khojaly inhabitants were found not
far from Aghdam. Someone first shot at legs so that people could
not go farther. Then he added the axe, on the 29th of February my
colleagues took photos of all this. Then during new sequences these
very corpses were scalped. A very strange game...
Answer: As the Khojali inhabitants, who narrowly escaped, say, it was
all organized in order to have ground for my resignation. Some forces
functioned for the effort to discredit the president. I don't think
that Armenians, who always have a distinct and competent attitude
towards such situations, could have let the Azerbaijani get the
documents unmasking them in fascist actions. It could be supposed
that somebody is interested to show these sequences afterwards,
at the BC session and to focus everything on my person.
If I claim the Azerbaijani opposition to be guilty in it, they might
say that I am telling lies about them. However, the general background
of arguments is, that a corridor by which the people could leave, was,
nevertheless, left by Armenians. Why then would they begin to shoot?
Especially in the territory nearby Aghdam, where by that time there
had been enough forces to help the people. Or, just come to an
agreement that the civil population will leave. Such practice has
always been usual.
I have always been told that people in Khojaly hold themselves up and
it is necessary to support them with armaments, people and food. I
gave a commission to use helicopters for this purpose. However, the
pilots refused to fly there as they do not have special devices to
avoid stingers. Nearly a week passed. An Aghdam alignment was sttked
nearby to watch the developments there. As soon as the military forces
encircled Khojaly, it was necessary to evacuate the population.
Earlier such a commission was given by me concerning Shushi: to
leave men there and to take women and children off. These are also
laws of the war: you must save their lives. My behavior was unbiased
and fefinite: I gave such commissions but I have no idea why they
were not fulfilled. By the way, I spoke to Lazarian, the head of
Military Forces in Nagorno-Karabakh, several times: "You laid several
people on the ground. Give us an opportunity to take their bodies off
here". But he replied that there must be no bodies, that our people
are with them and that they are fed there, though they are short of
provisions, and they are ready to exchange them with their hostages.
Question: When were you informed about those lost lives?
Answer: The next day after I was informed that there are just a few
killed people in Khojaly. The information came from the minister of
Home Affairs.
Question: Who was responsible for that information?
Answer: The minister himself. By that time a press-centre had been
established in the Ministry of Defense. After the story about the
helicopters we had an agreement that nobody would spread doubtful
information.
Question: Do you consider the Prime Minister Hasan Hasanov
responsible, too?
Answer: The head of the government, of course, is responsible for
everything, though he refuses to have anything to do with such
questions. Well, the government is government.
From: A. Papazian
http://www.xocali.net/EN/ayaz-mutalibov.html
KHOJALY: The chronicle of unseen forgery and falsification
The first president of Azerbaijan recently gave an extremely
interesting interview to one of the Russian TV channels in which it is
narrated that the first president of Azerbaijan, who proclaimed the
independence of the country, at present is living in the outskirts
of Moscow in a state apartment, without a passport and livelihood.
An ordinary refugee with triumphal past and rather obscure future.
This is how the Azerbaijani treat their leaders when the power passes
to other hands.
According to the reportage: "The ruling class of the Alievs did
everything so that the citizens should consider Heydar Aliev to be
the founder of their country and
should forget that they had ever had a first president. It is already
15 years that Ayaz Mutalibov has been wanted by the police in his
country. Heydar Aliev accused him of plotting coup d'etat.
Mutalibov denies the accusation but does not return to his homeland no
to be taken to prison. He is considered as an enemy in his motherland
and Ayaz Mutalibov is not admitted even by the Azerbaijani community
in Moscow".
"He ran to Moscow two months after his resignation and two days
after the feeble attempt to return to the President's palace. When
the armed supporters of the opposition went out to the streets to
demand the president's resignation, Mutalibov went to the Russian
military airport and, leaving his family in Baku, escaped from the
country. Now he avoids speaking about this fact, but it is certain
that Mutalibov preferred to save himself and only after several days
his friends took his family in cars first to Daghestan and then to
Moscow. He has been an exile since then: a guest to Russia, an enemy
to Azerbaijan, an enemy to Armenia".
"The whole negative after the Khojaly tragedy was focused on me. I had
to take the whole responsibility upon myself though I was not guilty
of anything", - claimed Ayaz Mutalibov in the interview. Let us remind
you that on the 2nd of April in 1992, in "Nezavisimaya gazeta" Ayaz
Mutalibov gave an interview to an independent Czech journalist, Dana
Mazalova, who afterwards became persecuted in her own country. The
cause of all these trials was the excessive frankness of the first
president which cost him his impeachment. During the interview it
became quite clear that the Azerbaijani version of the Khojaly events
is none other than a well-planned provocation of the Azerbaijani.
The clan of the Alievs did not forgive Mutalibov for such frankness.
>>From the interview of the former president of Azerbaijan Ayaz
Mutalibov to the Czech journalist Dana Mazalova, "Njvaya Gazeta",
2.04.92
Question:What is your opinion about the KHOJALY events after which
you resigned? Dead bodies of the Khojaly inhabitants were found not
far from Aghdam. Someone first shot at legs so that people could
not go farther. Then he added the axe, on the 29th of February my
colleagues took photos of all this. Then during new sequences these
very corpses were scalped. A very strange game...
Answer: As the Khojali inhabitants, who narrowly escaped, say, it was
all organized in order to have ground for my resignation. Some forces
functioned for the effort to discredit the president. I don't think
that Armenians, who always have a distinct and competent attitude
towards such situations, could have let the Azerbaijani get the
documents unmasking them in fascist actions. It could be supposed
that somebody is interested to show these sequences afterwards,
at the BC session and to focus everything on my person.
If I claim the Azerbaijani opposition to be guilty in it, they might
say that I am telling lies about them. However, the general background
of arguments is, that a corridor by which the people could leave, was,
nevertheless, left by Armenians. Why then would they begin to shoot?
Especially in the territory nearby Aghdam, where by that time there
had been enough forces to help the people. Or, just come to an
agreement that the civil population will leave. Such practice has
always been usual.
I have always been told that people in Khojaly hold themselves up and
it is necessary to support them with armaments, people and food. I
gave a commission to use helicopters for this purpose. However, the
pilots refused to fly there as they do not have special devices to
avoid stingers. Nearly a week passed. An Aghdam alignment was sttked
nearby to watch the developments there. As soon as the military forces
encircled Khojaly, it was necessary to evacuate the population.
Earlier such a commission was given by me concerning Shushi: to
leave men there and to take women and children off. These are also
laws of the war: you must save their lives. My behavior was unbiased
and fefinite: I gave such commissions but I have no idea why they
were not fulfilled. By the way, I spoke to Lazarian, the head of
Military Forces in Nagorno-Karabakh, several times: "You laid several
people on the ground. Give us an opportunity to take their bodies off
here". But he replied that there must be no bodies, that our people
are with them and that they are fed there, though they are short of
provisions, and they are ready to exchange them with their hostages.
Question: When were you informed about those lost lives?
Answer: The next day after I was informed that there are just a few
killed people in Khojaly. The information came from the minister of
Home Affairs.
Question: Who was responsible for that information?
Answer: The minister himself. By that time a press-centre had been
established in the Ministry of Defense. After the story about the
helicopters we had an agreement that nobody would spread doubtful
information.
Question: Do you consider the Prime Minister Hasan Hasanov
responsible, too?
Answer: The head of the government, of course, is responsible for
everything, though he refuses to have anything to do with such
questions. Well, the government is government.
From: A. Papazian