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    A SPIRITUAL MOVEMENT IS RIGHT TO START

    Lragir.am
    05/02/10

    Haji Nazenie Garibyan. Doctor of Art History at the Sorbonne,
    publicist, YSU teacher, deputy director of the Armenian comparative
    analysis Center for Egyptology

    How would you assess Armenia's current situation? Which is the biggest
    problem of the Armenian nation? Which are the solutions?

    Today, we have the same problems that we used to have several years
    ago. We have the Karabakh conflict and the problem of freeing ourselves
    from the Soviet Union, in other words, the problem of building a
    national liberating and free and independent country. But the most
    important is the change of conscience of the Armenian nation.

    Until we did not solve this issue, we will be unable to fulfill any
    initiative. In other words, after twenty years, we again face the
    need of revolution. Public relations have not been changed, and much
    remained the same or even worsened. Armenia has harder issues today
    than it had twenty years ago. Then, we won the Karabakh war and now
    we lose independence and are about to cede the lands.

    You noted about the need of change of conscience. But in 2008, you
    noticed that change.

    In 2008 a strong explosion took place which we compare to the movement
    in 1988. Then, it was the Karabakh movement which ended in revolution.

    During 20 years, we did not manage to solve the issue on internal
    consolidation. After 20 years, people gathered in streets to defend
    their vote. This question was not to be the reason of people's union.

    In 2008 people gathered in the Freedom Square to restore justice, but
    the potential of the people gathered there was more. It is another
    question that the leaders of the movement were content of only this
    demand. We have not used that potential and we have not even realized
    it. There seems to be some disagreement between the potential of
    people and their demands. Each time when elections are rigged after
    2008, they bring about the limitation of that energy and in the end
    it will just exhaust.

    Nevertheless, lately, all have been complaining of the Congress.

    Parallel to this, different initiatives are formed, and everyone
    dwells on a new force, new opposition. Do you feel this need?

    Let us treat this question from philosophical point of view. New force
    is always needed for the development of a society, for progress. It
    is a global issue, if there was no new force, people would still live
    in caves.

    The birth of this new force today is needed for the latter to solve
    other issues in the future. During twenty years, our society did not
    develop; today's new force has to return to '80, '90 to bring the
    society back. I do not exclude the emergence of a new force, but my
    position is somewhat restrained due, rather, to the perception of this
    force in the Armenian reality. We have the traditional proposition
    that the new should emerge from the ruins of the old, and to build
    a new, you must destroy the old. That is, you need to throw out what
    exists, to place new. In my circle of adherents, many throw stones on
    the Armenian National Congress. The point is not whether this holds
    true. And that those who want to build a new one can do so in a new
    place, and if it is a healthy new, the old will come down by itself
    or will remain standing. In the end, there is no harm from it.

    And no matter if we like it or not, HAK is a valuable achievement.

    Regarding the new force, there are two parallel streams - Sardarapat
    and other groups working in the same direction. No matter where this
    force will be, above all is the new idea. It is not necessary to
    destroy the old order, we need a complementary, complementing idea.

    These two groups have not yet put forward new ideas, they are both
    trends of purely socialist persuasion. I am personally opposed to
    socialism, not its basic ideology, which is based on social justice,
    but on the classical definition of socialism - as an ideology and
    forms of struggle to achieve the goal.

    New model for me can become a force that focuses not on material
    wealth, but human and humane values. The best model of socialism to
    me is the teaching of Christ.

    But do you see this new force?

    No, because force is a collective term, but I see the carriers of
    these ideas. Will these people be consolidated and become a force?

    Interview With Siranuysh Papyan
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