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FRANCE-TURKEY ROW PART OF ISRAELI PLOT
Press TV
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/217320.html
Dec 23 2011
Iran
Interview with foreign affairs analyst from Instanbul, Yavoz Selim
Kurt.
French-Turk relations are tense after the French parliament passed
a Bill labeling the Armenian massacre by the Ottoman Empire nearly
a century ago as genocide.
Some experts in Middle East affairs believe that the term 'genocide'
is not an accurate description and the passing of the Bill was provoked
by the Israeli lobby to weaken Turkey's role in the region.
Press TV talks with foreign affairs analyst, Yavoz Selim Kurt from
Instanbul about France's anti-Turkey move and its possible effects
on the future of relations between the two countries. Following is
an approximate transcription of the interview.
Press TV: How would this vote impact France's relationship with
Turkey? Please point to specifically examples if you can.
Selim Kurt: First of all, today; 22nd of December, is an unfortunate
date in the history of Europe and also France. It is unfortunate
for the parliament of France; also for the people of France. Maybe
they thought they would give some harm to the Turkish government or
Turkish people, but in the end they will be the losers.
Indeed, all of these issues depended on slanders, which took part a
hundred years ago. Yes, many Armenian people; citizens of the Ottoman
Empire suffered much and many were killed. We were also unhappy for
them and upset for them, but this was not genocide. This cannot be
named genocide, but they wanted this.
Anyone now will think that France is doing this, Sarkozy and some
parliamentarians as Bauer or something. Indeed, I want to say
something. This is about more than Turkish and France relations.
Behind this plot; behind these dirty slanders, believe me, there is
the Zionist lobby.
Just remember that two months or almost two months ago, the state
secretary of Israel -Lieberman. After the forces of Turkey; pressures
of Turkey in the international arena, he said, "We will support the
complaints about Turkey in the international arena". And they did
the same, indeed people will think that this is made by the Armenian
lobby or French parliamentarians, which is very funny, because ten
percent of the lower cabinet were there.
Just ten percent of the house voted for this. It is a very tragic
comedy.
Press TV: So, as I understand, you are saying that Israel has had
an influence on this based - on what you said - the low turnout in
parliament for this vote to have been passed?
Selim Kurt: Yes, indeed. The lower house accepted this with ten percent
of the votes. But now it will go to the Senate - I hope they will not
make it as a law, but in the end, Turkish and France relations from
now on will not be the same... As Israel and Turkish relations will not
be the same after The Mavi Marmara massacre in international waters.
Press TV: Is this going to jeopardize the cooperation that Turkey had?
And France of course we know Turkey is a NATO ally and we know some
of the regional developments - our guest from Ankara mentioned Syria -
Is this going to jeopardize how Turkey is acting, in that regard?
Selim Kurt: Yes, indeed I think the same because they are trying
to weaken the hands of Turkey in the international arena especially
Sarkozy and chancellor Merkel - they're named as 'Merkozy'. In their
ruling time they are behaving as an alliance of Judaic-Christian
civilization.
Ms. Merkel is always talking about Judaic-Christian civilization and
they are very arrogant about this. Now, in the international arena
they want to put Turkey in a difficult situation and tie the hands
of Turkey in case of a probable attack on Syria. They did the same
in the Libyan case; now they want to do the same.
Press TV: Why would they - because they are the ones that would lose
then? Obviously, Turkey has more of a relationship, at least had more
of a relationship with Syria and knows the region, I would think,
much better than the France would - Why would France then do this?
Selim Kurt: Yes, France is not doing this by itself. Indeed France
and Turkey had the best relations in the past. During the reign of
Suleiman the magnificent, France was almost a mandated state for
Turkey. Turkey had France so much against the other crusaders.
However, in this time, France is trying to steal a role in Africa;
in the Islamic world and some other countries, but they cannot manage
this. At the end, the target is - believe me- even the target of this
bill in French parliament is Iran.
Behind Syrian issue, there is Iran; they are targeting this. They
are always doing the same. They are slandering the same to Iran about
the nuclear issue and they are slandering and they believe themselves
and they are trying to convince their people - to sway public opinion-.
Press TV: OK. When you mention that, if you look at it in another way,
they would lose any chance that they would have in terms of Iran,
because Turkey obviously has a relationship with Iran, so it would
have to use Turkey to their advantage. This doesn't help it, does it?
Selim Kurt: Yes, Turkey and Iran have strong and very good relations
and they cannot manage to do anything to Iran through Turkey - they
will not have this - or Syria. They are trying to weaken the hands of
Turkey before a probable attack on Syria, but they cannot manage this.
But we are forgetting one thing... Very soon there will be elections
in France and this is also another plot of Sarkozy to again be in the
power. They are trying to take the support of the Armenian Diaspora
and the lobby; but now hear the French parliamentarians- I am sorry
for them- the history will judge them. Also, the Armenian Diaspora
are the instruments of the Zionist lobby in the United States and in
Europe. They are trying to weaken the hands of Turkey.
Press TV: There is also another argument here that this should be
made an example for Turkey to learn from. I do not know if you agree
or not- but if you look at it - Europe using Turkey for their own
benefits in a sense.
I mean, zero problems with its neighbors was one of the platforms that
Prime Minister Erdogan preached when he became Prime Minister. You can
take Turkeys role concerning Syria, which we talked about. Erdogan
on one point referred to Assad as his personal friend, so, is this
a lesson to be learned by Turkey in that regards?
Selim Kurt: They may have some intentions to use Turkey and Turkish
governments as their tools.But indeed they cannot do this because
any Turkish government will not let them to be used as a tool by
westerners.
Yes, they may have these plots. In this case the Turkish government
will have a strong stance as they did before. Not only am I talking
about the Justice and Development Party; I am also talking about
previous governments. Turkish governments will also try to defend
the rights of Turkey and not only Turkey.... Believe me, there is
something here - If they blame Turkey as a genocide maker, this means
that not only the Turks, but also the Muslims are genocide makers.
Indeed, these are lies.
Tomorrow they will make another slander, for instance, when they want
to force Iran, they will say, Iran is making genocide to Baluchi's or
Sunni's. Later on in Turkey they will say Turkey is making genocide
to the Kurds and to the Alewites.
They did this to the Sudan- you know- Omar El-Bashir - They wanted
to jail him, but they could not and so they divided Sudan in two parts.
They are just using this misinformation because these Westerners -
Judaic-Christian block--they do not want a leader country in the
Islamic world.
From: A. Papazian
Press TV
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/217320.html
Dec 23 2011
Iran
Interview with foreign affairs analyst from Instanbul, Yavoz Selim
Kurt.
French-Turk relations are tense after the French parliament passed
a Bill labeling the Armenian massacre by the Ottoman Empire nearly
a century ago as genocide.
Some experts in Middle East affairs believe that the term 'genocide'
is not an accurate description and the passing of the Bill was provoked
by the Israeli lobby to weaken Turkey's role in the region.
Press TV talks with foreign affairs analyst, Yavoz Selim Kurt from
Instanbul about France's anti-Turkey move and its possible effects
on the future of relations between the two countries. Following is
an approximate transcription of the interview.
Press TV: How would this vote impact France's relationship with
Turkey? Please point to specifically examples if you can.
Selim Kurt: First of all, today; 22nd of December, is an unfortunate
date in the history of Europe and also France. It is unfortunate
for the parliament of France; also for the people of France. Maybe
they thought they would give some harm to the Turkish government or
Turkish people, but in the end they will be the losers.
Indeed, all of these issues depended on slanders, which took part a
hundred years ago. Yes, many Armenian people; citizens of the Ottoman
Empire suffered much and many were killed. We were also unhappy for
them and upset for them, but this was not genocide. This cannot be
named genocide, but they wanted this.
Anyone now will think that France is doing this, Sarkozy and some
parliamentarians as Bauer or something. Indeed, I want to say
something. This is about more than Turkish and France relations.
Behind this plot; behind these dirty slanders, believe me, there is
the Zionist lobby.
Just remember that two months or almost two months ago, the state
secretary of Israel -Lieberman. After the forces of Turkey; pressures
of Turkey in the international arena, he said, "We will support the
complaints about Turkey in the international arena". And they did
the same, indeed people will think that this is made by the Armenian
lobby or French parliamentarians, which is very funny, because ten
percent of the lower cabinet were there.
Just ten percent of the house voted for this. It is a very tragic
comedy.
Press TV: So, as I understand, you are saying that Israel has had
an influence on this based - on what you said - the low turnout in
parliament for this vote to have been passed?
Selim Kurt: Yes, indeed. The lower house accepted this with ten percent
of the votes. But now it will go to the Senate - I hope they will not
make it as a law, but in the end, Turkish and France relations from
now on will not be the same... As Israel and Turkish relations will not
be the same after The Mavi Marmara massacre in international waters.
Press TV: Is this going to jeopardize the cooperation that Turkey had?
And France of course we know Turkey is a NATO ally and we know some
of the regional developments - our guest from Ankara mentioned Syria -
Is this going to jeopardize how Turkey is acting, in that regard?
Selim Kurt: Yes, indeed I think the same because they are trying
to weaken the hands of Turkey in the international arena especially
Sarkozy and chancellor Merkel - they're named as 'Merkozy'. In their
ruling time they are behaving as an alliance of Judaic-Christian
civilization.
Ms. Merkel is always talking about Judaic-Christian civilization and
they are very arrogant about this. Now, in the international arena
they want to put Turkey in a difficult situation and tie the hands
of Turkey in case of a probable attack on Syria. They did the same
in the Libyan case; now they want to do the same.
Press TV: Why would they - because they are the ones that would lose
then? Obviously, Turkey has more of a relationship, at least had more
of a relationship with Syria and knows the region, I would think,
much better than the France would - Why would France then do this?
Selim Kurt: Yes, France is not doing this by itself. Indeed France
and Turkey had the best relations in the past. During the reign of
Suleiman the magnificent, France was almost a mandated state for
Turkey. Turkey had France so much against the other crusaders.
However, in this time, France is trying to steal a role in Africa;
in the Islamic world and some other countries, but they cannot manage
this. At the end, the target is - believe me- even the target of this
bill in French parliament is Iran.
Behind Syrian issue, there is Iran; they are targeting this. They
are always doing the same. They are slandering the same to Iran about
the nuclear issue and they are slandering and they believe themselves
and they are trying to convince their people - to sway public opinion-.
Press TV: OK. When you mention that, if you look at it in another way,
they would lose any chance that they would have in terms of Iran,
because Turkey obviously has a relationship with Iran, so it would
have to use Turkey to their advantage. This doesn't help it, does it?
Selim Kurt: Yes, Turkey and Iran have strong and very good relations
and they cannot manage to do anything to Iran through Turkey - they
will not have this - or Syria. They are trying to weaken the hands of
Turkey before a probable attack on Syria, but they cannot manage this.
But we are forgetting one thing... Very soon there will be elections
in France and this is also another plot of Sarkozy to again be in the
power. They are trying to take the support of the Armenian Diaspora
and the lobby; but now hear the French parliamentarians- I am sorry
for them- the history will judge them. Also, the Armenian Diaspora
are the instruments of the Zionist lobby in the United States and in
Europe. They are trying to weaken the hands of Turkey.
Press TV: There is also another argument here that this should be
made an example for Turkey to learn from. I do not know if you agree
or not- but if you look at it - Europe using Turkey for their own
benefits in a sense.
I mean, zero problems with its neighbors was one of the platforms that
Prime Minister Erdogan preached when he became Prime Minister. You can
take Turkeys role concerning Syria, which we talked about. Erdogan
on one point referred to Assad as his personal friend, so, is this
a lesson to be learned by Turkey in that regards?
Selim Kurt: They may have some intentions to use Turkey and Turkish
governments as their tools.But indeed they cannot do this because
any Turkish government will not let them to be used as a tool by
westerners.
Yes, they may have these plots. In this case the Turkish government
will have a strong stance as they did before. Not only am I talking
about the Justice and Development Party; I am also talking about
previous governments. Turkish governments will also try to defend
the rights of Turkey and not only Turkey.... Believe me, there is
something here - If they blame Turkey as a genocide maker, this means
that not only the Turks, but also the Muslims are genocide makers.
Indeed, these are lies.
Tomorrow they will make another slander, for instance, when they want
to force Iran, they will say, Iran is making genocide to Baluchi's or
Sunni's. Later on in Turkey they will say Turkey is making genocide
to the Kurds and to the Alewites.
They did this to the Sudan- you know- Omar El-Bashir - They wanted
to jail him, but they could not and so they divided Sudan in two parts.
They are just using this misinformation because these Westerners -
Judaic-Christian block--they do not want a leader country in the
Islamic world.
From: A. Papazian