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'ARMENIAN SOCIETY UNABLE TO DEVELOP NEW FORMULA OF PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE'
news.az
Nov 17 2011
Azerbaijan
The chief of staff of the Presidential Administration, Ramiz Mehdiyev
commented on recent statements from Armenia.
In his exclusive interview with Bakinskiy Rabochiy newspaper chief of
staff of the Presidential Administration, Ramiz Mehdiyev, commented
on recent statements from Armenia that the Armenian nation was formed
8,000 years ago which means that the Armenians are native population
of these places.
Academician Ramiz Mehdiyev stated the following:
'These allegations have nothing to do with science. You can fantasize
all you want, but the problem is that some Armenian pseudoscientists
see a historical research as a means of entertainment. For example,
the claims that Armenians are the only nation whose history was not
interrupted from the date of its origin in antiquity are senseless. Of
course, this is absurd. Such statements contradict scientific rules
and principles of ethnogenesis.
It is Armenians' own business to manipulate their own history. But at
the same time they do not seem to calm down by trying to distort the
history of neighboring nations, including the history of Azerbaijani
people, who was allegedly created artificially at in early 20th
century. We often witness some circles in Armenia to disseminate
provocative rumors about alleged discontent among separate ethnic
groups in Azerbaijan and even arranging so-called conferences for
separatist-minded individuals who aims to question integrity of
Azerbaijani society.
Such insinuations designed to discredit the Azerbaijan people are
result of a particular disease. Their hostile actions demonstrate how
some forces in Armenia are deeply infected with an ethnos-specific
syndrome which is a combination of painful symptoms associated with
impairment of consciousness and behavior. If we take into account
paraphrenic syndrome, characterized by a presence of systematic
delusions of grandeur, it is not difficult to understand the reason
behind destructive actions of certain circles in the Armenian society.
Of course, it is hard for them to understand how different ethnic
groups live peacefully in a single state, share sorrow and joy of
each other. Armenians have built their artificial state in historical
territories of Azerbaijan and have created a mono-national country.
Archaic binding to ethnicity in building national state shows
that the Armenians are still to understand the political nature of
nation-building. They are still stuck in the early 20th century in
their understanding of nationhood.
Armenian society is not able to develop a qualitatively new formula
meant for an independent development and peaceful coexistence with
neighbors. Destructive approach to the role of its state in the region
hinders development of not only Armenia, but also it has a negative
impact on solution of problems in the South Caucasus, where nations
have embarked on a qualitatively new stage in their development. This
is because of the lack of genetic binding of Armenian people to
this territory. Linguistic and anthropological data are the core
of a study into ethnogenesis of these people because of paucity of
archaeological data on the history of the Armenians. Armenians, of
course, like any other nation, has their own history. However, what
is described as history of Armenians is not based on archaeological
findings or ancient monuments.
Researchers do not know any sources from ancient or of an earlier
period from which the Armenians would have reported something about
their history. There is no reliable information about the Armenian
alphabet before fifth century AD. The first Armenian texts known to
scientists belong to the fifth century.
Also, archaeological traces of the Armenian urban culture or any
fundamental structures dating back to a period before the first century
have been found neither on the eastern Turkey, nor in the territory
of modern Armenia, where searches were carried out very carefully.
Country name of Arminia, in which Armins lived, was first mentioned in
the inscriptions of the Persian king Darius I (522-488 years AD). In
Naqsh-e Rustam and Behistun inscriptions located near Iran city
of Hamadan, ancient Persian words Armina and Elamite Har-mi-nu-ia,
written simultaneously both in Akkadian, Elamite and Old Persian
languages, appears in those points of ancient Persian and Elamite
texts where Akkadian U-ra-as-tu ie Urartu is in the Akkadian text.
King Darius I lists the 25 conquered nations and tell about the size of
land subject to him. There is no single word about Hays on this list,
but there is a geographic area called Arminia, which has no relation
to present-day Armenians at all.
Armenians anthropologically belong to Armenoid (Anterior) type of
European race. Characteristic features of this type are mainly found
in the general population in Southwest Asia. Near Eastern type emerged
in the Neolithic period no later than the IV millennium BC.
In the meantime, modern Armenians are no different for anthropological
homogeneity, which is associated with the complex process of
ethnogenesis (due to the different migrations of ethnic elements
included in the Armenian ethnos).
Skulls found in old cemeteries on the territory of Armenia are very
different from the features of heads of modern Armenians. The
researchers are puzzled over division of Armenians into 16
anthropological types by their hereditary physical characteristics
as one nation cannot have so many anthropological differences.
In fact, this may be true only in case of presence of many assimilated
ethnic groups of different origins among Armenians. Researchers
studying ethnogenesis of Armenians are aware that there is a certain
layer of assimilated Roma among Armenians. Perhaps it is for this
reason that Armenians are not tied to a permanent place of residence.
Today, one can meet representative of this nation everyone except
the wilds of the Amazon forest.
The study of ethnogenesis of Armenians gives good reason to believe
that the Armenians are a conglomerate of nations, and their language is
a combination of language of Mushk tribes extruded by Cimmerians from
the Balkans to the territory of Asia Minor - in upper Mesopotamia
(called Mesopotamia by the Greeks) - with the languages â~@~Kof
indigenous peoples: Akkadians, Hittites, Luvians, Urartu, Aissors,
Medes, Persians, Greeks, Parthians, Turks, etc.
Mesopotamia was part of Assyria in the IX-VII centuries BC, Babylonian
Kingdom - in VII-VI centuries BC, Achaemenid power - in the VI-IV
centuries BC, the empire of Alexander of Macedon - in the IV century
BC and the Seleucid state - in IV-II centuries BC.
Then there were Parthia, the Arab Caliphate, the Safavids, and
Ottoman Empire and, finally, Mesopotamia became part of the Iraq,
Syria and Turkey following the World War I. Thus, the ancestors of
Hays are Mushks, but not Armenians who have never had their own state
in the region.
All this gives grounds to say that there is nothing unique about
history of this nation. Ethnogenesis of Armenians is subject to
general laws, which provides a scientific explanation for the origin
of any people. Another thing is that the Armenian Gregorian church
have invented â~@~Kso many artificial, far-fetched legends, fiction
about the history of Armenians for centuries that even experts can
not sometimes differentiate between the truth and falsehood. And
it's not hard to see if we compare various encyclopedic articles
about Armenians.
Thus, the Armenian scientists argue that Turkey and Southern Caucasus
are a place of their origin. They argue that Urartu is ancient Armenian
state. And, unfortunately, some Western scholars also believe this
myth not bothering to turn to the real historical facts.
Meanwhile, science knows that Urartu is an ancient state that
existed in IX-VI centuries BC. It was located in the geographic area
of Armenian highlands and partially covered the zone in the South
Caucasus, which was meant for the artificially created state of Armenia
in the early XX century. The state of Urartu led protracted wars with
Assyria, but was conquered by the Medes - one of the ancient ancestors
of Azerbaijanis - in the VI century BC. The language of Urartu and
the state of Urartu were Hald and Bian languages which together with
the Hurrian language belong to Hurr-Urartian language family. Their
language is known for cuneiform inscriptions of IX-VI centuries BC. As
you can see, it has no relation to the Armenian language.
Mushk tribes, the ancestors of Hays, who ended up in Mesopotamia from
Balkans as a result of expulsion by Cimmerians, soon settled in the
state of Urartu in a period when it went into decline.
However, they mingled with the local people having settled here. New
ethnic group who took the word 'Hay' by the III century BC was formed
during thousands of years starting from VII century BC as a result
of mixing of indigenous peoples and new ethnic groups, as well as
assimilation processes in the local area of the eastern part of Asia
Minor. However, the Greeks named them "Armenians" for their location in
the geographic area of â~@~KArminia. So, they were called "Armenians"
other way.
My new study places a great emphasis on ethnogenesis of Armenians as
this issue is important to understand the logic behind the behavior of
this people. Historically Armenians were easily used by strong states
as instruments and were also used in struggles of major world powers.
It was the case during the reign of Parthia and Roman Empire,
during the reign of Caucasian Albania and its struggle against the
Arab invaders in the Middle Ages, during the Arab-Byzantine wars, or
Turk-Byzantine conflict, as well as in the early twentieth century,
during the First World War when they acted as a "fifth column" in
the Ottoman Turkey which sheltered them. Today, Armenia acts as an
"outpost" in the South Caucasus.
It should be noted that opportunism is a priority in the
ethno-psychological map of the Armenian people. Armenians try to
achieve their goal by using every opportunity, even breaching all
the human principles. However, they do not know what to do when it
gets there, and can not provide the sequence of their actions.
It was the same case also 2,500 years ago at a time of Tigran, when his
government lived just over 40 years until Rome and Parthia revived. So,
in modern history an independent Armenia was created after the collapse
of the Soviet Union, which ended up being a dependant state on the
verge of humanitarian disaster because of the destructive path it
has chosen.
Consolidating strata of Armenian society are based solely on historical
insinuations about a need for Turkish recognition of the so-called
"1915 genocide" and the elusive idea of â~@~K"miatsum." None of
these ideas has objective historical background. They are based on
aggression and have nothing to do with the future.
Just look at the basic ideological concept of the ruling regime in
Armenia-Nzhdeizm, which is guided by ethno-religion and the exaggerated
ethnicity, concepts that are similar to fascism and Nazism - to
understand that the Armenians will not get anything but isolation
from the civilized community with this politico-ideological concept.'
news.az
Nov 17 2011
Azerbaijan
The chief of staff of the Presidential Administration, Ramiz Mehdiyev
commented on recent statements from Armenia.
In his exclusive interview with Bakinskiy Rabochiy newspaper chief of
staff of the Presidential Administration, Ramiz Mehdiyev, commented
on recent statements from Armenia that the Armenian nation was formed
8,000 years ago which means that the Armenians are native population
of these places.
Academician Ramiz Mehdiyev stated the following:
'These allegations have nothing to do with science. You can fantasize
all you want, but the problem is that some Armenian pseudoscientists
see a historical research as a means of entertainment. For example,
the claims that Armenians are the only nation whose history was not
interrupted from the date of its origin in antiquity are senseless. Of
course, this is absurd. Such statements contradict scientific rules
and principles of ethnogenesis.
It is Armenians' own business to manipulate their own history. But at
the same time they do not seem to calm down by trying to distort the
history of neighboring nations, including the history of Azerbaijani
people, who was allegedly created artificially at in early 20th
century. We often witness some circles in Armenia to disseminate
provocative rumors about alleged discontent among separate ethnic
groups in Azerbaijan and even arranging so-called conferences for
separatist-minded individuals who aims to question integrity of
Azerbaijani society.
Such insinuations designed to discredit the Azerbaijan people are
result of a particular disease. Their hostile actions demonstrate how
some forces in Armenia are deeply infected with an ethnos-specific
syndrome which is a combination of painful symptoms associated with
impairment of consciousness and behavior. If we take into account
paraphrenic syndrome, characterized by a presence of systematic
delusions of grandeur, it is not difficult to understand the reason
behind destructive actions of certain circles in the Armenian society.
Of course, it is hard for them to understand how different ethnic
groups live peacefully in a single state, share sorrow and joy of
each other. Armenians have built their artificial state in historical
territories of Azerbaijan and have created a mono-national country.
Archaic binding to ethnicity in building national state shows
that the Armenians are still to understand the political nature of
nation-building. They are still stuck in the early 20th century in
their understanding of nationhood.
Armenian society is not able to develop a qualitatively new formula
meant for an independent development and peaceful coexistence with
neighbors. Destructive approach to the role of its state in the region
hinders development of not only Armenia, but also it has a negative
impact on solution of problems in the South Caucasus, where nations
have embarked on a qualitatively new stage in their development. This
is because of the lack of genetic binding of Armenian people to
this territory. Linguistic and anthropological data are the core
of a study into ethnogenesis of these people because of paucity of
archaeological data on the history of the Armenians. Armenians, of
course, like any other nation, has their own history. However, what
is described as history of Armenians is not based on archaeological
findings or ancient monuments.
Researchers do not know any sources from ancient or of an earlier
period from which the Armenians would have reported something about
their history. There is no reliable information about the Armenian
alphabet before fifth century AD. The first Armenian texts known to
scientists belong to the fifth century.
Also, archaeological traces of the Armenian urban culture or any
fundamental structures dating back to a period before the first century
have been found neither on the eastern Turkey, nor in the territory
of modern Armenia, where searches were carried out very carefully.
Country name of Arminia, in which Armins lived, was first mentioned in
the inscriptions of the Persian king Darius I (522-488 years AD). In
Naqsh-e Rustam and Behistun inscriptions located near Iran city
of Hamadan, ancient Persian words Armina and Elamite Har-mi-nu-ia,
written simultaneously both in Akkadian, Elamite and Old Persian
languages, appears in those points of ancient Persian and Elamite
texts where Akkadian U-ra-as-tu ie Urartu is in the Akkadian text.
King Darius I lists the 25 conquered nations and tell about the size of
land subject to him. There is no single word about Hays on this list,
but there is a geographic area called Arminia, which has no relation
to present-day Armenians at all.
Armenians anthropologically belong to Armenoid (Anterior) type of
European race. Characteristic features of this type are mainly found
in the general population in Southwest Asia. Near Eastern type emerged
in the Neolithic period no later than the IV millennium BC.
In the meantime, modern Armenians are no different for anthropological
homogeneity, which is associated with the complex process of
ethnogenesis (due to the different migrations of ethnic elements
included in the Armenian ethnos).
Skulls found in old cemeteries on the territory of Armenia are very
different from the features of heads of modern Armenians. The
researchers are puzzled over division of Armenians into 16
anthropological types by their hereditary physical characteristics
as one nation cannot have so many anthropological differences.
In fact, this may be true only in case of presence of many assimilated
ethnic groups of different origins among Armenians. Researchers
studying ethnogenesis of Armenians are aware that there is a certain
layer of assimilated Roma among Armenians. Perhaps it is for this
reason that Armenians are not tied to a permanent place of residence.
Today, one can meet representative of this nation everyone except
the wilds of the Amazon forest.
The study of ethnogenesis of Armenians gives good reason to believe
that the Armenians are a conglomerate of nations, and their language is
a combination of language of Mushk tribes extruded by Cimmerians from
the Balkans to the territory of Asia Minor - in upper Mesopotamia
(called Mesopotamia by the Greeks) - with the languages â~@~Kof
indigenous peoples: Akkadians, Hittites, Luvians, Urartu, Aissors,
Medes, Persians, Greeks, Parthians, Turks, etc.
Mesopotamia was part of Assyria in the IX-VII centuries BC, Babylonian
Kingdom - in VII-VI centuries BC, Achaemenid power - in the VI-IV
centuries BC, the empire of Alexander of Macedon - in the IV century
BC and the Seleucid state - in IV-II centuries BC.
Then there were Parthia, the Arab Caliphate, the Safavids, and
Ottoman Empire and, finally, Mesopotamia became part of the Iraq,
Syria and Turkey following the World War I. Thus, the ancestors of
Hays are Mushks, but not Armenians who have never had their own state
in the region.
All this gives grounds to say that there is nothing unique about
history of this nation. Ethnogenesis of Armenians is subject to
general laws, which provides a scientific explanation for the origin
of any people. Another thing is that the Armenian Gregorian church
have invented â~@~Kso many artificial, far-fetched legends, fiction
about the history of Armenians for centuries that even experts can
not sometimes differentiate between the truth and falsehood. And
it's not hard to see if we compare various encyclopedic articles
about Armenians.
Thus, the Armenian scientists argue that Turkey and Southern Caucasus
are a place of their origin. They argue that Urartu is ancient Armenian
state. And, unfortunately, some Western scholars also believe this
myth not bothering to turn to the real historical facts.
Meanwhile, science knows that Urartu is an ancient state that
existed in IX-VI centuries BC. It was located in the geographic area
of Armenian highlands and partially covered the zone in the South
Caucasus, which was meant for the artificially created state of Armenia
in the early XX century. The state of Urartu led protracted wars with
Assyria, but was conquered by the Medes - one of the ancient ancestors
of Azerbaijanis - in the VI century BC. The language of Urartu and
the state of Urartu were Hald and Bian languages which together with
the Hurrian language belong to Hurr-Urartian language family. Their
language is known for cuneiform inscriptions of IX-VI centuries BC. As
you can see, it has no relation to the Armenian language.
Mushk tribes, the ancestors of Hays, who ended up in Mesopotamia from
Balkans as a result of expulsion by Cimmerians, soon settled in the
state of Urartu in a period when it went into decline.
However, they mingled with the local people having settled here. New
ethnic group who took the word 'Hay' by the III century BC was formed
during thousands of years starting from VII century BC as a result
of mixing of indigenous peoples and new ethnic groups, as well as
assimilation processes in the local area of the eastern part of Asia
Minor. However, the Greeks named them "Armenians" for their location in
the geographic area of â~@~KArminia. So, they were called "Armenians"
other way.
My new study places a great emphasis on ethnogenesis of Armenians as
this issue is important to understand the logic behind the behavior of
this people. Historically Armenians were easily used by strong states
as instruments and were also used in struggles of major world powers.
It was the case during the reign of Parthia and Roman Empire,
during the reign of Caucasian Albania and its struggle against the
Arab invaders in the Middle Ages, during the Arab-Byzantine wars, or
Turk-Byzantine conflict, as well as in the early twentieth century,
during the First World War when they acted as a "fifth column" in
the Ottoman Turkey which sheltered them. Today, Armenia acts as an
"outpost" in the South Caucasus.
It should be noted that opportunism is a priority in the
ethno-psychological map of the Armenian people. Armenians try to
achieve their goal by using every opportunity, even breaching all
the human principles. However, they do not know what to do when it
gets there, and can not provide the sequence of their actions.
It was the same case also 2,500 years ago at a time of Tigran, when his
government lived just over 40 years until Rome and Parthia revived. So,
in modern history an independent Armenia was created after the collapse
of the Soviet Union, which ended up being a dependant state on the
verge of humanitarian disaster because of the destructive path it
has chosen.
Consolidating strata of Armenian society are based solely on historical
insinuations about a need for Turkish recognition of the so-called
"1915 genocide" and the elusive idea of â~@~K"miatsum." None of
these ideas has objective historical background. They are based on
aggression and have nothing to do with the future.
Just look at the basic ideological concept of the ruling regime in
Armenia-Nzhdeizm, which is guided by ethno-religion and the exaggerated
ethnicity, concepts that are similar to fascism and Nazism - to
understand that the Armenians will not get anything but isolation
from the civilized community with this politico-ideological concept.'