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Roza Hovhannisyan
14:32 07/12/2012
Story from Lragir.am News:
http://www.lragir.am/index.php/eng/0/interview/view/28337
Interview with Ashot Manucharyan, member of Karabakh Committee
Mr. Manucharyan, Russia announced a few days ago to fund fully the
construction of the nuclear plant in Turkey and is ready to provide
all the 20 billion dollars while it will provide only half, 5 billion
dollars, of the amount required for the construction of the nuclear
plant in Armenia. What are your thoughts on Russia's move as Armenia
is facing the construction of a new reactor but has shortage of funds?
The main issue is philosophy. Like Russia, we have joined the world
trade system. I mean from the human point of view the highest value
is trade and grabbing our share in this trade. And we are always
indignant when others want to grab their share. In the early 90s
when we were just entering this trade system which is now trying to
destroy the planet, our delegation left for Russia after the Koltso
action to attend the plenary meeting of the people's deputies of the
Soviet Union - how could you do that after centuries of friendship,
deep relations and so on? The head of the delegation says can't you
see we are offering you a marriage? The Russian answer was you are
offering us a mercenary marriage while we want love marriage. Hence,
Russia's fundamental wall should be taken into account. Whenever
it joined the world trade system, it joined by its commercial side,
which is its political elite, the government. However, the need for
love, human relations is always present in the Russian identity. If
we surrender ourselves to trade, it will always consider us alien. It
will treat us as it treats aliens. It will try to grab what is its,
and we will try to grab what is ours. There should be no surprise
because they are many, what they will grab will be bigger.
What does Russia expect to grab from Turkey now?
For a long time since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, Turkey has
had a convenient and important geopolitical role, and everyone wants
to get their piece of cake. Russia thinks it is the right time for
drawing geopolitical dividends and is therefore working hard there.
The world is shaken by major wars, everyone is possibly trying to
avoid these tremors. So is doing Russia.
Will Russia thus block the construction of the reactor in Armenia?
A group of irresponsibly thinking people go in for the cliches of the
information war conducted by the West and are using new curse phrases -
Russia, Soviet Union, socialism. There is no section of curse in the
world, there is no need to turn anything into a curse. However, our
fellows who go in for the American cliches, perhaps with the approval
of the United States, have made such a mistake. We look at everything
from this angle. Everything coming from Russia is very bad. Those used
to be innocent games but now dangerous times have begun. We could slap
Russia without any harm for us but now it would be very dangerous. I
repeat that the planet is facing major shakes which may acquire a
strategic nature and have very heavy consequences. The focus is on
our region, and the main factor of our protection is the alliance
with Russia and all the multi-party alliances it proposes. Slapping
Russia all the time may force it to treat us as an alien.
At this stage there is no certainty over membership to the Eurasian
Union. After all, why should Armenia want to join this union if there
are realistic plans to integrate with the EU economic area? The EU
officials hint that Armenia cannot sign a DCFTA after it joins the
Eurasian Union. Which decision would stem from our country's interests?
All the unions of the world apart from the Eurasian Union are based on
trade. The EU is established for trade, it is the union of robbery. It
has been set up to ensure better conditions for the EU members,
for the leaders on the one hand, and to defend the interests of the
European Union across the world on the other hand. Finally, you do
not think that they are up for establishing democracy in Libya, do you?
They destroyed a country because they had an issue of economic
interests, they wanted to redirect Libyan oil where the EU needed.
After committing the highest crime they awarded a Nobel Prize for
peace. The other unions - NATO, OSCE, etc - are even worse. All the
unions where we are present and where we want to be are based on
trade, pursue cynical interests, and we will always be on the losing
side. The Eurasian Union is still a blank paper. Although, it is true
that there is one thing already - it is proposed by Russia which is
also part of this cynical system, it has yielded to it, it is an alien
system to it. Unlike the other post-Soviet nations, the peoples of
Russia and Belarus defy the philosophy of the world of commerce. They
are looking for something else. This union has been proposed by the
authorities to create something within the framework of the world
of commerce. The good thing is there are people to understand other
discourse as well. We need to conduct that discourse. This discourse
has developed considerably in the United States and Europe but only a
few philosophers are looking for ways out of this absurd world. Now
we need to accept what belongs to the West and invite them and
join together with the Russian circles the other world, the other
civilization model and propose to the Eurasian Union to be guided
by such a model, put this at the base. This is a possible way but we
say from the very beginning that whatever is coming from Russia is bad.
This is a bad mistake. It is more than a crime.
Do small countries have a chance to influence the decisions of Russia
and other great powers?
Nobody knows where the vision of the new world will come from. 2000
years ago it came from a faraway province of the Roman Empire,
Palestine. Who knows where the idea will be born 2000 years later. We
could be the first.
There is an opinion that the Eurasian Union is Russia's attempt to
restore the lost empire.
Restoring the empire is another cliche of the Western information war.
The largest empire in which we are living now is the American empire.
This is an empire of robbers, oligarchs, more honest elections. Have
you heard the Western statements that Armenia is holding more and
more fair elections? And we continue praising this world, while Russia
repeats the words of the West which sound from its lips as nonsensical
as from our lips. However, few people in Russia have been infected. We
need not talk to those infected, they are immense in number. Only 1
out of 100 may not be infected, while in our government everyone is
infected. There are influential people outside the Russian government
to which we should talk.
Roza Hovhannisyan
14:32 07/12/2012
Story from Lragir.am News:
http://www.lragir.am/index.php/eng/0/interview/view/28337
Interview with Ashot Manucharyan, member of Karabakh Committee
Mr. Manucharyan, Russia announced a few days ago to fund fully the
construction of the nuclear plant in Turkey and is ready to provide
all the 20 billion dollars while it will provide only half, 5 billion
dollars, of the amount required for the construction of the nuclear
plant in Armenia. What are your thoughts on Russia's move as Armenia
is facing the construction of a new reactor but has shortage of funds?
The main issue is philosophy. Like Russia, we have joined the world
trade system. I mean from the human point of view the highest value
is trade and grabbing our share in this trade. And we are always
indignant when others want to grab their share. In the early 90s
when we were just entering this trade system which is now trying to
destroy the planet, our delegation left for Russia after the Koltso
action to attend the plenary meeting of the people's deputies of the
Soviet Union - how could you do that after centuries of friendship,
deep relations and so on? The head of the delegation says can't you
see we are offering you a marriage? The Russian answer was you are
offering us a mercenary marriage while we want love marriage. Hence,
Russia's fundamental wall should be taken into account. Whenever
it joined the world trade system, it joined by its commercial side,
which is its political elite, the government. However, the need for
love, human relations is always present in the Russian identity. If
we surrender ourselves to trade, it will always consider us alien. It
will treat us as it treats aliens. It will try to grab what is its,
and we will try to grab what is ours. There should be no surprise
because they are many, what they will grab will be bigger.
What does Russia expect to grab from Turkey now?
For a long time since the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, Turkey has
had a convenient and important geopolitical role, and everyone wants
to get their piece of cake. Russia thinks it is the right time for
drawing geopolitical dividends and is therefore working hard there.
The world is shaken by major wars, everyone is possibly trying to
avoid these tremors. So is doing Russia.
Will Russia thus block the construction of the reactor in Armenia?
A group of irresponsibly thinking people go in for the cliches of the
information war conducted by the West and are using new curse phrases -
Russia, Soviet Union, socialism. There is no section of curse in the
world, there is no need to turn anything into a curse. However, our
fellows who go in for the American cliches, perhaps with the approval
of the United States, have made such a mistake. We look at everything
from this angle. Everything coming from Russia is very bad. Those used
to be innocent games but now dangerous times have begun. We could slap
Russia without any harm for us but now it would be very dangerous. I
repeat that the planet is facing major shakes which may acquire a
strategic nature and have very heavy consequences. The focus is on
our region, and the main factor of our protection is the alliance
with Russia and all the multi-party alliances it proposes. Slapping
Russia all the time may force it to treat us as an alien.
At this stage there is no certainty over membership to the Eurasian
Union. After all, why should Armenia want to join this union if there
are realistic plans to integrate with the EU economic area? The EU
officials hint that Armenia cannot sign a DCFTA after it joins the
Eurasian Union. Which decision would stem from our country's interests?
All the unions of the world apart from the Eurasian Union are based on
trade. The EU is established for trade, it is the union of robbery. It
has been set up to ensure better conditions for the EU members,
for the leaders on the one hand, and to defend the interests of the
European Union across the world on the other hand. Finally, you do
not think that they are up for establishing democracy in Libya, do you?
They destroyed a country because they had an issue of economic
interests, they wanted to redirect Libyan oil where the EU needed.
After committing the highest crime they awarded a Nobel Prize for
peace. The other unions - NATO, OSCE, etc - are even worse. All the
unions where we are present and where we want to be are based on
trade, pursue cynical interests, and we will always be on the losing
side. The Eurasian Union is still a blank paper. Although, it is true
that there is one thing already - it is proposed by Russia which is
also part of this cynical system, it has yielded to it, it is an alien
system to it. Unlike the other post-Soviet nations, the peoples of
Russia and Belarus defy the philosophy of the world of commerce. They
are looking for something else. This union has been proposed by the
authorities to create something within the framework of the world
of commerce. The good thing is there are people to understand other
discourse as well. We need to conduct that discourse. This discourse
has developed considerably in the United States and Europe but only a
few philosophers are looking for ways out of this absurd world. Now
we need to accept what belongs to the West and invite them and
join together with the Russian circles the other world, the other
civilization model and propose to the Eurasian Union to be guided
by such a model, put this at the base. This is a possible way but we
say from the very beginning that whatever is coming from Russia is bad.
This is a bad mistake. It is more than a crime.
Do small countries have a chance to influence the decisions of Russia
and other great powers?
Nobody knows where the vision of the new world will come from. 2000
years ago it came from a faraway province of the Roman Empire,
Palestine. Who knows where the idea will be born 2000 years later. We
could be the first.
There is an opinion that the Eurasian Union is Russia's attempt to
restore the lost empire.
Restoring the empire is another cliche of the Western information war.
The largest empire in which we are living now is the American empire.
This is an empire of robbers, oligarchs, more honest elections. Have
you heard the Western statements that Armenia is holding more and
more fair elections? And we continue praising this world, while Russia
repeats the words of the West which sound from its lips as nonsensical
as from our lips. However, few people in Russia have been infected. We
need not talk to those infected, they are immense in number. Only 1
out of 100 may not be infected, while in our government everyone is
infected. There are influential people outside the Russian government
to which we should talk.