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http://www.aravot.am/en/2012/10/06/117347/
October 6, 2012 12:59
They discuss migration issues on Rhodes - the representative of the
Netherlands urges not to take their path.
"If an official is corrupt, it doesn't matter a representative
of which nation he sells out to. It doesn't mean that the 'buyer'
is to blame," Aram Sargsyan, the leader of the Democratic Party of
Armenia (DPA) and the head of the Armenian delegation, said during
a round-table discussion on migration issues at the forum called
Dialogue of Civilizations on the Greek island of Rhodes in response
to an observation of Pavel Serdyuk, a priest representing Belarus,
that Caucasian immigrants tried to solve their problems at any
cost importing their "bad morals" to the country they were in. This
debate started after Zhanna Zayongovskaya, an expert representing the
Russian Federation, had made a remark that the rights of immigrants
were violated in the Russian Federation. The lady thinks that the
very reason why the number of Caucasian immigrants in Russia has
decreased is that they are not treated well. Generally, she is against
emigration from the former Soviet countries to the Russian Federation,
particularly "brain drain," emigration of intellectuals, since she
thinks that it will eventually lead to a situation, where her country
borders will become open. She has applied to competent government
officials regarding that problem, but she hasn't gotten any answer.
The Russian expert is convinced that not only should the so-called
"receiving countries" treat immigrants better, but also the donor
countries should explain to their emigrants how they should behave.
According to the lady, mutual respect will lead to solution of many
problems. There was a rather heated discussion on this opinion,
rather contradictory examples were given.
"We talk about the results all the time without seriously analyzing
the causes," Aram Sargsyan, the DPA leader representing Armenia, said
in his speech. He is convinced that one should first solve the main
problems causing migration - wars, low-quality system of government,
which cause inequality, including social inequality. Aram Sargsyan
shares the Russian expert's opinion that the donor and receiving
countries should commit themselves to decreasing the problems caused
by migration.
In his opinion, all three parties are aggrieved in the current
situation, whereas one can impose concrete regulations given the
intergovernmental agreements. "If one country empties, that country
suffers in terms of specialists in the first place, since it has spent
money on the education of the given specialist. He gradually rules
out his participation in the development of the given country. All
this is an international problem today. And it is interesting that 99
percent of migrants leave the south for the north causing problems with
maintaining personal, national identity," Aram Sargsyan said during
a conversation with Aravot. In response to our observation that this
also causes problems with protection of human rights, since the state
cannot force anyone to leave for another country or to stay in that
country, Aram Sargsyan said, "One doesn't ask; one decides and leaves.
The task of countries like Armenia is to create living conditions,
in order that one doesn't even think of leaving. Emigration is the
most painful problem for us. Therefore, we cannot afford it. However,
since it is understandable that such problems are not solved overnight,
the state should at least show interest and take care of those who
emigrate from that country through
the provisions stipulated in intergovernmental agreements. People
emigrate from Armenia to the Russian Federation, the US and European
countries. One can think a bit and find out what agreements with these
countries one can reach, in order that basic conditions are created."
Our interlocutor gave an example of Armenians' emigration to France
after the Genocide, when that country created specific conditions
for our countrymen on one condition that they would maintain their
identity remaining loyal citizens and accepting the rules of the game.
"The adaptation was smoother. One can find options now too,
particularly given the fact that there is a problem of xenophobia
in Europe," our interlocutor said. He suggests that a UN committee
regulating migration issues be established, which will supranational,
supra-state and will regulate this field with specific guarantees
and projects.
By the way, Peter van Krieken, an expert representing the Netherlands
urged in his speech not to follow their example, since Europe pursued
a wrong policy in terms of migration, "There is no multiculturalism,
it has collapsed, because it just cannot be achieved. One should have
been smarter."
NELLY GRIGORYAN, Rhodes
http://www.aravot.am/en/2012/10/06/117347/
October 6, 2012 12:59
They discuss migration issues on Rhodes - the representative of the
Netherlands urges not to take their path.
"If an official is corrupt, it doesn't matter a representative
of which nation he sells out to. It doesn't mean that the 'buyer'
is to blame," Aram Sargsyan, the leader of the Democratic Party of
Armenia (DPA) and the head of the Armenian delegation, said during
a round-table discussion on migration issues at the forum called
Dialogue of Civilizations on the Greek island of Rhodes in response
to an observation of Pavel Serdyuk, a priest representing Belarus,
that Caucasian immigrants tried to solve their problems at any
cost importing their "bad morals" to the country they were in. This
debate started after Zhanna Zayongovskaya, an expert representing the
Russian Federation, had made a remark that the rights of immigrants
were violated in the Russian Federation. The lady thinks that the
very reason why the number of Caucasian immigrants in Russia has
decreased is that they are not treated well. Generally, she is against
emigration from the former Soviet countries to the Russian Federation,
particularly "brain drain," emigration of intellectuals, since she
thinks that it will eventually lead to a situation, where her country
borders will become open. She has applied to competent government
officials regarding that problem, but she hasn't gotten any answer.
The Russian expert is convinced that not only should the so-called
"receiving countries" treat immigrants better, but also the donor
countries should explain to their emigrants how they should behave.
According to the lady, mutual respect will lead to solution of many
problems. There was a rather heated discussion on this opinion,
rather contradictory examples were given.
"We talk about the results all the time without seriously analyzing
the causes," Aram Sargsyan, the DPA leader representing Armenia, said
in his speech. He is convinced that one should first solve the main
problems causing migration - wars, low-quality system of government,
which cause inequality, including social inequality. Aram Sargsyan
shares the Russian expert's opinion that the donor and receiving
countries should commit themselves to decreasing the problems caused
by migration.
In his opinion, all three parties are aggrieved in the current
situation, whereas one can impose concrete regulations given the
intergovernmental agreements. "If one country empties, that country
suffers in terms of specialists in the first place, since it has spent
money on the education of the given specialist. He gradually rules
out his participation in the development of the given country. All
this is an international problem today. And it is interesting that 99
percent of migrants leave the south for the north causing problems with
maintaining personal, national identity," Aram Sargsyan said during
a conversation with Aravot. In response to our observation that this
also causes problems with protection of human rights, since the state
cannot force anyone to leave for another country or to stay in that
country, Aram Sargsyan said, "One doesn't ask; one decides and leaves.
The task of countries like Armenia is to create living conditions,
in order that one doesn't even think of leaving. Emigration is the
most painful problem for us. Therefore, we cannot afford it. However,
since it is understandable that such problems are not solved overnight,
the state should at least show interest and take care of those who
emigrate from that country through
the provisions stipulated in intergovernmental agreements. People
emigrate from Armenia to the Russian Federation, the US and European
countries. One can think a bit and find out what agreements with these
countries one can reach, in order that basic conditions are created."
Our interlocutor gave an example of Armenians' emigration to France
after the Genocide, when that country created specific conditions
for our countrymen on one condition that they would maintain their
identity remaining loyal citizens and accepting the rules of the game.
"The adaptation was smoother. One can find options now too,
particularly given the fact that there is a problem of xenophobia
in Europe," our interlocutor said. He suggests that a UN committee
regulating migration issues be established, which will supranational,
supra-state and will regulate this field with specific guarantees
and projects.
By the way, Peter van Krieken, an expert representing the Netherlands
urged in his speech not to follow their example, since Europe pursued
a wrong policy in terms of migration, "There is no multiculturalism,
it has collapsed, because it just cannot be achieved. One should have
been smarter."
NELLY GRIGORYAN, Rhodes