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RUSSIAN POLITICIAN ALEKSEY MALACHENKO: "BY EXAGGERATING RAMIL SAFAROV'S ISSUE, ARMENIAN GOVERNMENT ONLY SHOWS ITS FOOLISHNESS" - INTERVIEW
Milaz.info
Sept 17 2012
Azerbaijan
"It's impossible that Dagestan predecessors to leave the awful
terrorist act against traditions of Islam without attention"
"The rapid escalation of terrorist acts in the North Caucasus may
cause insecurity in the region"
Moscow. Farid Akberov - APA. APA's special corersporndent in Moscow
has interviewed the member of Moscow Karnegi Central Scientific
Departrment, professor and famous politican Aleksey Malashenko:
-What is your opinion on the hysterics of the Armenian government
concerning the extradition of Ramil Safarov to Azerbaijan and his
pardoning?
- The reaction shown by the Armenian government concerning the
extradition of Ramil Safarov to Azerbaijan and his pardoning may be
only eaccepted as foolishness. The fact the the Armenian government
blows this issue out of proportion just shows its stupidity. Why do
they create such a background of this event?" Why do they stop the
diplomatic relations with Hungary? I consider that the policy pursued
by the Armenian government possesses a very primitive character. If
Armenia wants to condemn Azerbaijan and Hungary, it must identify
more serious pretexts.
-In this period of time when the whole world struggles against
terrorism, the Armenian terrorist organization ASALA has obviously
threatened Azerbaijanis living abroad in front of the public community
last week. How can you comment it?
- This issue has fallen into the hands of this terrorist organization
ASALA. We must prevent them using this pretext.
- What do you think of the probability of war between Azerbaijan and
Armenia after the incidents occurred around Ramil Safarov?
- In my opinion, the war will not occur, because there is no winner
of this war. The external forces also play a significant role here.
Anyone's victory is not necessary to Russia, the US and Europe. If
the Nagorno Karabakh war starts, it will be a great blow to the
world community. At present, the negotiations processes reached its
deadlock. But the problems will be solved peacefully sooner or later.
Consensus will be found for this problem.
- How do you comment on the war rhetoric by both sides?
- I consider that, the both sides chant war rhetoric according to
their own policy.
-How would you comment on the ongoing processes in the Northern
Caucasus? Do you think that radical Islamists killing authoritative
religious persons are an indicator of Islam's weakening in the region?
- The assassination of Sufi Sheikh Said Afandi Atsayev, one of
the authoritative religious persons of Dagestan, was expected. The
radicals in Dagestan have chosen this direction - the assassination of
authoritative religious persons. They have been continued these actions
for years. They first killed Abubakarov, one of the authoritative
sheikhs, then Bastanov. After these persons, Sirajuddin Khurigski and
Said Afandi Chirkeyvski were killed. I consider that, the radicals
will continue these actions. But I have such a question.
One of the authoritative religious persons of Dagestan was killed. But
his assassination was not caused a serious reaction. About 150 000
people attended his funeral. It was suspected as revenge. But it
didn't occur. We know that he has many students and followers. They
are very authoritative in Dagestan. I consider that the government
has a great role in their calmness. But there is another problem. If
the actions and attacks by radicals are not responded, thn they
would their chance?! They will think that everybody is afraid of
them. It very surprising, a great terror act against Islam in the
region remains unresponsive.
They think that in the Northern Caucasus, they will be able to
do anything they want and that they are too strong. This is very
dangerous.
The situation in the region will depend on the policy the government
pursues. We will witness how the government controls existing
situation. Will the government achieve a dialogue between the Salafits
and traditional Islamists? Generally, not only in Dagestan but also
in the whole northern Caucasus the number of terrorist attacks has
increased recently. And this could be very dangerous for the entire
region.
- According to experts the war in Dagestan has already started and
that Russia is not controlling the situation. Is this a right fact?
The civil war in Dagestan has been continuing more than 10 years. But
the lost side is still unknown. The federal government is suspected
to be afraid of such a situation and that's why tries to solve the
problem through negotiations. The current situation in Dagestan is
not good as Kremlin says. The situation is too bad there. There is
a conflict between the Federal structures and the people.
- Would it be right to compare the situation in Dagestan with the
Tatarstan events?
The terror act in Tatarstan was unexpected for many people. As
Tatarstan is region where there is an inter-regional dialogue. On the
other hand Radical Islamists control over a huge area of this country.
Many experts consider that the terror in the region will increase. As
Radical Islamists, also, take majority of mosques under their control.
Muslims have established their own international Muslims society in
Tatarstan as well as Saratov, Ulyanovsk. Those Muslims are are mainly
of Caucasus and central Asia origin. Tatars are also represented
in the same osociety with them. All the conflicts in Tatarstan are
organized by them. When it comes to the influence of the situation
in Tatarstan on Chechnya and Dagestan we must say that there is a
definite influence. But this is formal. Yes, Doku Umarov has already
declared sbout the formation of "Idyll region". Some people from
Chechnya and Dagestan come to propagandize there. But the Salafits
ideas are rapidly expanding in Tatarstan. The events show that the
religious situation will not be as stabile as before. The latest two
terror acts give the radical an opportunity to feel themselves strong.
This not a good tendency at all and such a tendency in Tatarstan in
the heart of Russia would cause dangerous events.
Milaz.info
Sept 17 2012
Azerbaijan
"It's impossible that Dagestan predecessors to leave the awful
terrorist act against traditions of Islam without attention"
"The rapid escalation of terrorist acts in the North Caucasus may
cause insecurity in the region"
Moscow. Farid Akberov - APA. APA's special corersporndent in Moscow
has interviewed the member of Moscow Karnegi Central Scientific
Departrment, professor and famous politican Aleksey Malashenko:
-What is your opinion on the hysterics of the Armenian government
concerning the extradition of Ramil Safarov to Azerbaijan and his
pardoning?
- The reaction shown by the Armenian government concerning the
extradition of Ramil Safarov to Azerbaijan and his pardoning may be
only eaccepted as foolishness. The fact the the Armenian government
blows this issue out of proportion just shows its stupidity. Why do
they create such a background of this event?" Why do they stop the
diplomatic relations with Hungary? I consider that the policy pursued
by the Armenian government possesses a very primitive character. If
Armenia wants to condemn Azerbaijan and Hungary, it must identify
more serious pretexts.
-In this period of time when the whole world struggles against
terrorism, the Armenian terrorist organization ASALA has obviously
threatened Azerbaijanis living abroad in front of the public community
last week. How can you comment it?
- This issue has fallen into the hands of this terrorist organization
ASALA. We must prevent them using this pretext.
- What do you think of the probability of war between Azerbaijan and
Armenia after the incidents occurred around Ramil Safarov?
- In my opinion, the war will not occur, because there is no winner
of this war. The external forces also play a significant role here.
Anyone's victory is not necessary to Russia, the US and Europe. If
the Nagorno Karabakh war starts, it will be a great blow to the
world community. At present, the negotiations processes reached its
deadlock. But the problems will be solved peacefully sooner or later.
Consensus will be found for this problem.
- How do you comment on the war rhetoric by both sides?
- I consider that, the both sides chant war rhetoric according to
their own policy.
-How would you comment on the ongoing processes in the Northern
Caucasus? Do you think that radical Islamists killing authoritative
religious persons are an indicator of Islam's weakening in the region?
- The assassination of Sufi Sheikh Said Afandi Atsayev, one of
the authoritative religious persons of Dagestan, was expected. The
radicals in Dagestan have chosen this direction - the assassination of
authoritative religious persons. They have been continued these actions
for years. They first killed Abubakarov, one of the authoritative
sheikhs, then Bastanov. After these persons, Sirajuddin Khurigski and
Said Afandi Chirkeyvski were killed. I consider that, the radicals
will continue these actions. But I have such a question.
One of the authoritative religious persons of Dagestan was killed. But
his assassination was not caused a serious reaction. About 150 000
people attended his funeral. It was suspected as revenge. But it
didn't occur. We know that he has many students and followers. They
are very authoritative in Dagestan. I consider that the government
has a great role in their calmness. But there is another problem. If
the actions and attacks by radicals are not responded, thn they
would their chance?! They will think that everybody is afraid of
them. It very surprising, a great terror act against Islam in the
region remains unresponsive.
They think that in the Northern Caucasus, they will be able to
do anything they want and that they are too strong. This is very
dangerous.
The situation in the region will depend on the policy the government
pursues. We will witness how the government controls existing
situation. Will the government achieve a dialogue between the Salafits
and traditional Islamists? Generally, not only in Dagestan but also
in the whole northern Caucasus the number of terrorist attacks has
increased recently. And this could be very dangerous for the entire
region.
- According to experts the war in Dagestan has already started and
that Russia is not controlling the situation. Is this a right fact?
The civil war in Dagestan has been continuing more than 10 years. But
the lost side is still unknown. The federal government is suspected
to be afraid of such a situation and that's why tries to solve the
problem through negotiations. The current situation in Dagestan is
not good as Kremlin says. The situation is too bad there. There is
a conflict between the Federal structures and the people.
- Would it be right to compare the situation in Dagestan with the
Tatarstan events?
The terror act in Tatarstan was unexpected for many people. As
Tatarstan is region where there is an inter-regional dialogue. On the
other hand Radical Islamists control over a huge area of this country.
Many experts consider that the terror in the region will increase. As
Radical Islamists, also, take majority of mosques under their control.
Muslims have established their own international Muslims society in
Tatarstan as well as Saratov, Ulyanovsk. Those Muslims are are mainly
of Caucasus and central Asia origin. Tatars are also represented
in the same osociety with them. All the conflicts in Tatarstan are
organized by them. When it comes to the influence of the situation
in Tatarstan on Chechnya and Dagestan we must say that there is a
definite influence. But this is formal. Yes, Doku Umarov has already
declared sbout the formation of "Idyll region". Some people from
Chechnya and Dagestan come to propagandize there. But the Salafits
ideas are rapidly expanding in Tatarstan. The events show that the
religious situation will not be as stabile as before. The latest two
terror acts give the radical an opportunity to feel themselves strong.
This not a good tendency at all and such a tendency in Tatarstan in
the heart of Russia would cause dangerous events.