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US GOVERNMENT AFTER SUBSERVIENT EGYPT - ANALYST
09:22 17/07/2013 " INTERVIEWS
Press TV has talked with Mohamed Sharaf, political analyst from Cairo,
to discuss the ongoing power struggle in Egypt following the ouster of
President Mohamed Morsi. What follows is an approximate transcription
of the interview.
- Mr. Sharaf, some people have been saying that the Muslim Brotherhood
deputy leader, Kheirat el-Shater, and others who have lead the
Muslim Brotherhood have an interest now in turning the situation into
something radical and confrontational. That in fact, they say, the
majority of those in the new regime like ElBaradei and Beblawi, they
want the Brotherhood to be a part of the new political process but the
Muslim Brotherhood does not want that and this is not going to help.
What do you say to that?
A lot of people are saying that the members of the interim government
right now want the Islamic parties, the Muslim Brotherhood, to be
in the political transition process and to move things forward but
the Muslim Brotherhood by remaining defiant is only complicating
the situation.
- Yes, whatever government and whatever will happen is illegitimate.
You know, it is coming as a result of a coup, it is against the will
of the people. We did not authorize them, we had a democratic path
from which they deviated and they are coming on the tanks, you know,
on the muzzle of a tank. So those people behind whatever they said
as a roadmap, it is a map without a road, really.
So we see it as infringing on our rights, we are for democracy and
the only gain which we had from the revolution of 2011 was to have
our democratic path and to have a respect for our vote.
This time our votes have been stampeded on by this military coup. It
is purely a military coup, it is uncalled-for, because if the process
was the performance of the government or the performance of President
Morsi we have the parliamentary elections coming soon and according
to our new constitution if you win the parliament then you have the
legislative power and also you form the cabinet. The cabinet has 70
percent of the powers, about 70 percent of the powers, so you can force
your way, you can force your will, you can start whatever you think
and even you can modify the constitution or amend the constitution
in whatever way you think.
- But Mr. Sharaf, the thing is, the Muslim Brotherhood right now has
been saying: we have a just cause and we are prepared to sacrifice
for that cause but does this mean that there is going to be no
compromise under any conditions with the Muslim Brotherhood and the
interim government?
I mean is not that going to lead to further violence and bloodshed?
- You know, I am not really an Islamist but I see the Islamists are
the people now abiding [by] and adhering to the democratic process.
They had been demonstrating now or sitting in Rabaa al-Adawiya for
18 days.
They did not resort to any violence, the violence came from the
government or the government forces. The coup, you know, killed the
people at prayers, when they were saying prayers, when they were
calling their god. So they were really peaceful, they were attacked
badly, you know. We have about 100 martyrs and we have thousands of
bad (serious) injuries.
So I do not really call the Muslim Brothers calling for any sort
of violence but I am with them, you know, for staging a peaceful
sit-in and a peaceful demonstration to return to normalcy because
what really happens, there is nothing worse than infringing on our
will by a military coup. It is taking our vote by force.
So those who are taking our vote by force, they have to resort to
violence, and that is what we saw just a week ago in the massacre of
people at prayers.
- Mr. Sharaf, we know that the United States has so far refused to call
the situation in Egypt a coup d'etat and William Burns, he was speaking
in Cairo today, he said that this is a second chance for the Egyptians.
What do you think first of all his visit to Egypt is about? I mean the
Muslim Brotherhood is saying that he was siding with the Military but
those on the other side are, actually, saying that the United States
is trying to vie for the Muslim Brotherhood.
The position of the United States here, William Burns said this is
second chance for Egyptians. What do you think about the United States'
role in the situation? Is it taking sides?
- The United States had been a key player from the very first moment
and not just right now, right after the revolution they had been
intervening to shape the fluid state in Egypt and their main cause is
to guarantee the security of Israel and to guarantee their interests
and to make sure that Egypt is subservient to their causes in the
Middle East and remains subservient to them just to serve Israel.
But what really happened, the American ambassador in Cairo, she
had been a key player since November. I mean we have been seeing
her inciting the opposition to stage demonstrations and asking them
if you reach certain numbers we would be on your side and she had
been staging all that and she had been part with the military in
the last moment... for their take over, she was there, also, asking
the president to sign for his abrogation. So this really is a clear
intervention...
- Mr. Sharaf I will just jump in here if I may, we are very short
of time. Just concluding remarks. Mr. Sharaf quickly if you can,
if none of the two sides are going to enter into a compromise this
will leave in a divided state and who is going to benefit from this?
- What compromise? If you take my vote I am not going to
compromise.
We have to return to normalcy. When they did their coup they said
that people were out in the streets and they had a headcount. We ask
them to have the headcount now and reverse their coup because what
we will be after is our democratic process, we will preserve it and
preserve our votes.
Source: Panorama.am
09:22 17/07/2013 " INTERVIEWS
Press TV has talked with Mohamed Sharaf, political analyst from Cairo,
to discuss the ongoing power struggle in Egypt following the ouster of
President Mohamed Morsi. What follows is an approximate transcription
of the interview.
- Mr. Sharaf, some people have been saying that the Muslim Brotherhood
deputy leader, Kheirat el-Shater, and others who have lead the
Muslim Brotherhood have an interest now in turning the situation into
something radical and confrontational. That in fact, they say, the
majority of those in the new regime like ElBaradei and Beblawi, they
want the Brotherhood to be a part of the new political process but the
Muslim Brotherhood does not want that and this is not going to help.
What do you say to that?
A lot of people are saying that the members of the interim government
right now want the Islamic parties, the Muslim Brotherhood, to be
in the political transition process and to move things forward but
the Muslim Brotherhood by remaining defiant is only complicating
the situation.
- Yes, whatever government and whatever will happen is illegitimate.
You know, it is coming as a result of a coup, it is against the will
of the people. We did not authorize them, we had a democratic path
from which they deviated and they are coming on the tanks, you know,
on the muzzle of a tank. So those people behind whatever they said
as a roadmap, it is a map without a road, really.
So we see it as infringing on our rights, we are for democracy and
the only gain which we had from the revolution of 2011 was to have
our democratic path and to have a respect for our vote.
This time our votes have been stampeded on by this military coup. It
is purely a military coup, it is uncalled-for, because if the process
was the performance of the government or the performance of President
Morsi we have the parliamentary elections coming soon and according
to our new constitution if you win the parliament then you have the
legislative power and also you form the cabinet. The cabinet has 70
percent of the powers, about 70 percent of the powers, so you can force
your way, you can force your will, you can start whatever you think
and even you can modify the constitution or amend the constitution
in whatever way you think.
- But Mr. Sharaf, the thing is, the Muslim Brotherhood right now has
been saying: we have a just cause and we are prepared to sacrifice
for that cause but does this mean that there is going to be no
compromise under any conditions with the Muslim Brotherhood and the
interim government?
I mean is not that going to lead to further violence and bloodshed?
- You know, I am not really an Islamist but I see the Islamists are
the people now abiding [by] and adhering to the democratic process.
They had been demonstrating now or sitting in Rabaa al-Adawiya for
18 days.
They did not resort to any violence, the violence came from the
government or the government forces. The coup, you know, killed the
people at prayers, when they were saying prayers, when they were
calling their god. So they were really peaceful, they were attacked
badly, you know. We have about 100 martyrs and we have thousands of
bad (serious) injuries.
So I do not really call the Muslim Brothers calling for any sort
of violence but I am with them, you know, for staging a peaceful
sit-in and a peaceful demonstration to return to normalcy because
what really happens, there is nothing worse than infringing on our
will by a military coup. It is taking our vote by force.
So those who are taking our vote by force, they have to resort to
violence, and that is what we saw just a week ago in the massacre of
people at prayers.
- Mr. Sharaf, we know that the United States has so far refused to call
the situation in Egypt a coup d'etat and William Burns, he was speaking
in Cairo today, he said that this is a second chance for the Egyptians.
What do you think first of all his visit to Egypt is about? I mean the
Muslim Brotherhood is saying that he was siding with the Military but
those on the other side are, actually, saying that the United States
is trying to vie for the Muslim Brotherhood.
The position of the United States here, William Burns said this is
second chance for Egyptians. What do you think about the United States'
role in the situation? Is it taking sides?
- The United States had been a key player from the very first moment
and not just right now, right after the revolution they had been
intervening to shape the fluid state in Egypt and their main cause is
to guarantee the security of Israel and to guarantee their interests
and to make sure that Egypt is subservient to their causes in the
Middle East and remains subservient to them just to serve Israel.
But what really happened, the American ambassador in Cairo, she
had been a key player since November. I mean we have been seeing
her inciting the opposition to stage demonstrations and asking them
if you reach certain numbers we would be on your side and she had
been staging all that and she had been part with the military in
the last moment... for their take over, she was there, also, asking
the president to sign for his abrogation. So this really is a clear
intervention...
- Mr. Sharaf I will just jump in here if I may, we are very short
of time. Just concluding remarks. Mr. Sharaf quickly if you can,
if none of the two sides are going to enter into a compromise this
will leave in a divided state and who is going to benefit from this?
- What compromise? If you take my vote I am not going to
compromise.
We have to return to normalcy. When they did their coup they said
that people were out in the streets and they had a headcount. We ask
them to have the headcount now and reverse their coup because what
we will be after is our democratic process, we will preserve it and
preserve our votes.
Source: Panorama.am