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Was Chechen Man Shot by FBI in Florida a Suspect in 2011 Waltham Triple Murder?
http://theothermccain.com/2013/05/22/was-chechen-man-shot-by-fbi-in-florida-a-suspect-in-2011-waltham-triple-murder/
Posted on | May 22, 2013
The news that Ibragim Todashev was shot to death by an FBI agent in
Orlando last night has gotten widespread attention because of the
connection between Todashev, a Chechen immigrant, and Boston marathon
bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev:
The FBI spent three hours Tuesday interviewing both Todashev and a
friend, Khusen Taramov, who told Orlando's WESH-TV that agents had
taken Todashev to be interviewed separately. Taramov said: `They were
talking to us, both of us, right? And they said they need him for a
little more, for a couple more hours, and I left, and they told me
they're going to bring him back. They never brought him back. . . . I
told him, `Everything is going to be fine, don't worry about it.' He
said, `I have a really bad feeling.''
The shooting occurred in an apartment complex off Peregrine Avenue in
Orlando, according to Central Florida News 13, which also interviewed
Taramov, who said FBI agents `started following us, watching us' after
Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his brother Dzhokar were identified as suspects
in the April 15 bombing of the Boston Marathon, which killed three
people and wounded more than 170 others.
Todashev had reportedly been planning Tuesday to fly back to Chechnya,
Taramov said: `He cancelled the tickets because, the FBI had been
like, I don't know, they've been pushing him, you know what I'm
saying. They've been pushing him they say `don't leave, don't leave'
so he decided to stay.'
You can read the rest at Viral Read, but what caught my eye was
thereport by NBC News that Todashev was being questioned by the FBI in
connection with a 2011 triple homicide in Waltham, Massachusetts, in
which Tamerlan Tsarnaev was reportedly also a suspect.
What do we know about that crime? And how was the possible involvement
of Tsarnaev and Todashev significant?
On Sept. 12, 2011, police found the bodies of three men - Brendan
Mess, 25, Erik Weissman, 31, and Raphael Teken, 37 - in a
second-floor apartment on a dead-end street in Waltham.
All three men had been stabbed in the neck, and their bodies were
reportedly `covered in marijuana.' Neighbors reported that one of the
victims drove a Mercedes and there were frequent comings and goings
from the apartment, which would lead to the obvious suspicion that the
murders were drug-related. And police said from the start that they
believed the victims knew their killer or killers. Two weeks ago,
Michele McPhee of ABC News reported:
Massachusetts investigators have developed what they call `mounting
evidence,' bolstered by `forensic hits,' that point to the possible
involvement of both Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his younger brother Dzhokhar
in a gruesome, unsolved triple homicide in 2011 . . .
In the wake of the Marathon bombings, Middlesex County began to probe
a link between the elder Tsarnaev and Brendan Mess, one of the three
men killed in the gruesome slaying on Sept. 11, 2011. . . . Tamerlan
and Mess were once roommates and did boxing and martial arts training
together. . . .
Now law enforcement officials tell ABC News that some crime scene
forensic evidence provided a match to the two Tsarnaev brothers. The
officials also said records of cell phones used by the Tsarnaevs
appears to put them in the area of the murders on that date. . . .
Roughly seven pounds of marijuana was dumped on the bodies and $5,000
in cash was left behind. Neighbors said they did not hear any signs of
trouble - even with open windows - and there was no forced entry. In a
2011 interview, Leone said investigators theorized there had been more
than one person at the scene of the murders based on `many factors,'
but no suspects were identified.
>From there the case went cold, until photos of the Boston Marathon
suspects were released and family and friends of the Waltham victims
recognized them and remembered Tamerlan's strange behavior after the
murders. He did not attend his friend's funeral and vanished from the
martial arts gyms where the men had sparred together.
If the killers left behind seven pounds of marijuana and $5,000,
obviously the motive for the crime was not robbery.
So the question quite naturally arises, what inspired this triple
murder on the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks?
We have reports of Tamerlan Tsarnaev's `strange behavior' after the
Waltham murders, we have his involvement in the Boston Marathon
bombings, we have reports of forensic evidence connecting the Tsarnaev
brothers to the murders, and now we have the report of Tamerlan
Tsarnaev's Chechen buddy who had bought a ticket on a flight out of
the country and who was shot after attacking an FBI agent during an
interrogation.
Yeah, the 2011 Waltham murder case now looks very significant.
`Keep an eye on this one,' says Michelle Malkin.
UPDATE: Ed Morrissey catches something I missed:
The officials say Todashev had some connections with radical Chechen
rebels, but they say it's not clear whether he had any role in
radicalizing Tsarnaev.
A month ago, Michael Rezendes of the Boston Globe reported:
Previously, investigators had said that Brendan Mess, 25, along with
Erik Weissman, 25, and Raphael Teken, 37, were killed on Sept. 12,
2011 . . .
But the relative interviewed by the Globe said the murders took place
the evening before, on Sept. 11, the 10th anniversary of the attacks
on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The relative said he knew
this because he was texting one of the victims about a Sunday night
football game between the New York Jets and Dallas Cowboys when
communication with the victims suddenly stopped at about 8:15 that
evening.
`The three of them were definitely killed on Sept. 11,' the relative
said. `They all stopped using their cellphones at about eight o'clock
that night.'
The puzzle pieces seem to be forming a pattern. But if phone records
of the victims showed they were killed on the 10th anniversary of
9/11, why did investigators tell the public otherwise?
From: Baghdasarian
http://theothermccain.com/2013/05/22/was-chechen-man-shot-by-fbi-in-florida-a-suspect-in-2011-waltham-triple-murder/
Posted on | May 22, 2013
The news that Ibragim Todashev was shot to death by an FBI agent in
Orlando last night has gotten widespread attention because of the
connection between Todashev, a Chechen immigrant, and Boston marathon
bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev:
The FBI spent three hours Tuesday interviewing both Todashev and a
friend, Khusen Taramov, who told Orlando's WESH-TV that agents had
taken Todashev to be interviewed separately. Taramov said: `They were
talking to us, both of us, right? And they said they need him for a
little more, for a couple more hours, and I left, and they told me
they're going to bring him back. They never brought him back. . . . I
told him, `Everything is going to be fine, don't worry about it.' He
said, `I have a really bad feeling.''
The shooting occurred in an apartment complex off Peregrine Avenue in
Orlando, according to Central Florida News 13, which also interviewed
Taramov, who said FBI agents `started following us, watching us' after
Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his brother Dzhokar were identified as suspects
in the April 15 bombing of the Boston Marathon, which killed three
people and wounded more than 170 others.
Todashev had reportedly been planning Tuesday to fly back to Chechnya,
Taramov said: `He cancelled the tickets because, the FBI had been
like, I don't know, they've been pushing him, you know what I'm
saying. They've been pushing him they say `don't leave, don't leave'
so he decided to stay.'
You can read the rest at Viral Read, but what caught my eye was
thereport by NBC News that Todashev was being questioned by the FBI in
connection with a 2011 triple homicide in Waltham, Massachusetts, in
which Tamerlan Tsarnaev was reportedly also a suspect.
What do we know about that crime? And how was the possible involvement
of Tsarnaev and Todashev significant?
On Sept. 12, 2011, police found the bodies of three men - Brendan
Mess, 25, Erik Weissman, 31, and Raphael Teken, 37 - in a
second-floor apartment on a dead-end street in Waltham.
All three men had been stabbed in the neck, and their bodies were
reportedly `covered in marijuana.' Neighbors reported that one of the
victims drove a Mercedes and there were frequent comings and goings
from the apartment, which would lead to the obvious suspicion that the
murders were drug-related. And police said from the start that they
believed the victims knew their killer or killers. Two weeks ago,
Michele McPhee of ABC News reported:
Massachusetts investigators have developed what they call `mounting
evidence,' bolstered by `forensic hits,' that point to the possible
involvement of both Tamerlan Tsarnaev and his younger brother Dzhokhar
in a gruesome, unsolved triple homicide in 2011 . . .
In the wake of the Marathon bombings, Middlesex County began to probe
a link between the elder Tsarnaev and Brendan Mess, one of the three
men killed in the gruesome slaying on Sept. 11, 2011. . . . Tamerlan
and Mess were once roommates and did boxing and martial arts training
together. . . .
Now law enforcement officials tell ABC News that some crime scene
forensic evidence provided a match to the two Tsarnaev brothers. The
officials also said records of cell phones used by the Tsarnaevs
appears to put them in the area of the murders on that date. . . .
Roughly seven pounds of marijuana was dumped on the bodies and $5,000
in cash was left behind. Neighbors said they did not hear any signs of
trouble - even with open windows - and there was no forced entry. In a
2011 interview, Leone said investigators theorized there had been more
than one person at the scene of the murders based on `many factors,'
but no suspects were identified.
>From there the case went cold, until photos of the Boston Marathon
suspects were released and family and friends of the Waltham victims
recognized them and remembered Tamerlan's strange behavior after the
murders. He did not attend his friend's funeral and vanished from the
martial arts gyms where the men had sparred together.
If the killers left behind seven pounds of marijuana and $5,000,
obviously the motive for the crime was not robbery.
So the question quite naturally arises, what inspired this triple
murder on the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks?
We have reports of Tamerlan Tsarnaev's `strange behavior' after the
Waltham murders, we have his involvement in the Boston Marathon
bombings, we have reports of forensic evidence connecting the Tsarnaev
brothers to the murders, and now we have the report of Tamerlan
Tsarnaev's Chechen buddy who had bought a ticket on a flight out of
the country and who was shot after attacking an FBI agent during an
interrogation.
Yeah, the 2011 Waltham murder case now looks very significant.
`Keep an eye on this one,' says Michelle Malkin.
UPDATE: Ed Morrissey catches something I missed:
The officials say Todashev had some connections with radical Chechen
rebels, but they say it's not clear whether he had any role in
radicalizing Tsarnaev.
A month ago, Michael Rezendes of the Boston Globe reported:
Previously, investigators had said that Brendan Mess, 25, along with
Erik Weissman, 25, and Raphael Teken, 37, were killed on Sept. 12,
2011 . . .
But the relative interviewed by the Globe said the murders took place
the evening before, on Sept. 11, the 10th anniversary of the attacks
on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The relative said he knew
this because he was texting one of the victims about a Sunday night
football game between the New York Jets and Dallas Cowboys when
communication with the victims suddenly stopped at about 8:15 that
evening.
`The three of them were definitely killed on Sept. 11,' the relative
said. `They all stopped using their cellphones at about eight o'clock
that night.'
The puzzle pieces seem to be forming a pattern. But if phone records
of the victims showed they were killed on the 10th anniversary of
9/11, why did investigators tell the public otherwise?
From: Baghdasarian