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ANATOLY DZIVAYEV: "WHETHER WE WANT IT OR NOT, RUSSIA AND GEORGIA SHOULD BECOME FRIENDS AGAIN"
Vestnik Kavkaza, Russia
July 18 2014
18 July 2014 - 2:51pm
Interview by Oleg Kusov. Exclusively for Vestnik Kavkaza
Interesting guests are always welcomed by Vestnik Kavkaza. Oleg Kusov
talks to them not only about the Caucasus. Take My Word is a program
which is recorded in video, audio and text formats.
- Today our guest is an Honored Artist of Russia, a People's Artist of
North Ossetia, theatre director and actor of the Moscow theatre headed
by Armen Dzhigarkhanyan, Anatoly Dzivayev. Good afternoon, Anatoly!
- Hello!
- I know that you have initiated a very interesting cinema project
which touches on complicated events in the Caucasus. You have a script
of a film which will be shot this year. Tell us about it.
- I took part in the screenwriting. Mainly the author of the script
is Vladimir Gutnov (a North Ossetian screenwriter and journalist).
- It is interesting that in the 1990s Vladimir Gutnov covered
inter-ethnic conflicts, as a journalist of a Russian information
agency. He knows the story from inside. And he is a talented
screenwriter.
- He is a talented person in general. He has a nice sense of humor.
The script is titled "Tili and Toli." The setting is the border
between Russia and Georgia, particularly North Ossetia and Georgia.
There was no border in the past. There was the Soviet Union. There
are two friends who used to live together, drink tea and not only
tea. And suddenly a border passes between them. Tili village is on the
one side, and Toli village is on the other side. Two friends Bazi and
Kakhi live there. They have never thought that a border would separate
them. And suddenly border guards appear and don't let them visit each
other. And the two friends don't understand why, they need visas,
and so on. The genre of the film is comedy. I will play a priest who
serves Georgians, Ossetians and Russians. There are few residents
in the village. There is a cemetery which has to be divided as well,
and the church should be divided. How can they do it, if graves are
shuffled - a Georgian grave is next to an Ossetian grave which is
next to a Russian grave? And border guards say that the border will
take a zigzag course. Such a sad thing is presented with humor.
- I hope the project will be implemented.
- I don't know. I did my best to convince Armen Dzhigarkhanyan and
Kakhi Kavsadze to play in it. These are great actors, and I think they
should do it. Next year they will celebrate their 80th birthdays. But
they should realize our ideas. Dzhigarkhanyan will play the Ossetian
and Kakhi Kavsadze - the Georgian. Let's see what the result will be.
The idea is wonderful.
- Moreover, it is interesting because it will be Caucasus cinema -
a Georgian, an Ossetian and an Armenian. In one film.
- We should return to our roots, I mean Caucasus cinema. I think there
are gaps in it. Great directors perished; traditions are gone. I have
recently been to Tbilisi, and I didn't see an inscription in Russian.
I was raised in Georgia in the Crosspass.
- In the Kazbek district?
- Yes. At the moment it is the Dushet district. Kumlistsikhe is my
village. Ossetians used to live there. I visited Tbilisi often at
the time. I knew the Georgian intelligentsia well. And now I hear
only Georgian and English spoken. No girls or boys speak Russian in
Tbilisi. They play football, but speak English. Probably it is right.
But I think Georgia has lost a lot without Russia. I don't know what
it gained, but it lost a lot. I think today we should become friends
again, whether we want it or not. I don't know who is guilty of what,
this is not my business, let historians and politicians deal with
that, but one side cannot be guilty of everything. We should become
friends. This is my view.
The full version of the interview can be seen in "Video"
http://vestnikkavkaza.net/interviews/culture/57878.html
Vestnik Kavkaza, Russia
July 18 2014
18 July 2014 - 2:51pm
Interview by Oleg Kusov. Exclusively for Vestnik Kavkaza
Interesting guests are always welcomed by Vestnik Kavkaza. Oleg Kusov
talks to them not only about the Caucasus. Take My Word is a program
which is recorded in video, audio and text formats.
- Today our guest is an Honored Artist of Russia, a People's Artist of
North Ossetia, theatre director and actor of the Moscow theatre headed
by Armen Dzhigarkhanyan, Anatoly Dzivayev. Good afternoon, Anatoly!
- Hello!
- I know that you have initiated a very interesting cinema project
which touches on complicated events in the Caucasus. You have a script
of a film which will be shot this year. Tell us about it.
- I took part in the screenwriting. Mainly the author of the script
is Vladimir Gutnov (a North Ossetian screenwriter and journalist).
- It is interesting that in the 1990s Vladimir Gutnov covered
inter-ethnic conflicts, as a journalist of a Russian information
agency. He knows the story from inside. And he is a talented
screenwriter.
- He is a talented person in general. He has a nice sense of humor.
The script is titled "Tili and Toli." The setting is the border
between Russia and Georgia, particularly North Ossetia and Georgia.
There was no border in the past. There was the Soviet Union. There
are two friends who used to live together, drink tea and not only
tea. And suddenly a border passes between them. Tili village is on the
one side, and Toli village is on the other side. Two friends Bazi and
Kakhi live there. They have never thought that a border would separate
them. And suddenly border guards appear and don't let them visit each
other. And the two friends don't understand why, they need visas,
and so on. The genre of the film is comedy. I will play a priest who
serves Georgians, Ossetians and Russians. There are few residents
in the village. There is a cemetery which has to be divided as well,
and the church should be divided. How can they do it, if graves are
shuffled - a Georgian grave is next to an Ossetian grave which is
next to a Russian grave? And border guards say that the border will
take a zigzag course. Such a sad thing is presented with humor.
- I hope the project will be implemented.
- I don't know. I did my best to convince Armen Dzhigarkhanyan and
Kakhi Kavsadze to play in it. These are great actors, and I think they
should do it. Next year they will celebrate their 80th birthdays. But
they should realize our ideas. Dzhigarkhanyan will play the Ossetian
and Kakhi Kavsadze - the Georgian. Let's see what the result will be.
The idea is wonderful.
- Moreover, it is interesting because it will be Caucasus cinema -
a Georgian, an Ossetian and an Armenian. In one film.
- We should return to our roots, I mean Caucasus cinema. I think there
are gaps in it. Great directors perished; traditions are gone. I have
recently been to Tbilisi, and I didn't see an inscription in Russian.
I was raised in Georgia in the Crosspass.
- In the Kazbek district?
- Yes. At the moment it is the Dushet district. Kumlistsikhe is my
village. Ossetians used to live there. I visited Tbilisi often at
the time. I knew the Georgian intelligentsia well. And now I hear
only Georgian and English spoken. No girls or boys speak Russian in
Tbilisi. They play football, but speak English. Probably it is right.
But I think Georgia has lost a lot without Russia. I don't know what
it gained, but it lost a lot. I think today we should become friends
again, whether we want it or not. I don't know who is guilty of what,
this is not my business, let historians and politicians deal with
that, but one side cannot be guilty of everything. We should become
friends. This is my view.
The full version of the interview can be seen in "Video"
http://vestnikkavkaza.net/interviews/culture/57878.html