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Sabah Daily News, Turkey
Oct 18 2014
REPORTERS MEET TO TURN A NEW PAGE ON TURKISH-ARMENIAN RELATIONS
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IZMIR ' A new engagement program brought together 18 journalists and
bloggers, 10 from Armenia and eight from Turkey, to spend a fortnight
travelling around Turkey and Armenia, two countries that share a
divided and troubled past.
Vazgen Karapetyan, 44, studied medicine but never practiced, claiming
it was difficult to find a job in Armenia just after its independence
from the Soviet Union in 1991. He is the deputy director of the
Yerevan-based Eurasia Partnership Foundation, a mainly U.S. and
EU-backed institution. "If, fifteen years ago, someone had told me
that I would be working on Armenia-Turkey relations, I would have
said: 'No, you are joking'," Karapetyan says.
The tour claims that it will provide an opportunity for participants
to explore the neighboring country while rediscovering their own
nation.
Relations between Ankara and Yerevan have historically been poor owing
to bitter disagreements over events in 1915 which the Armenian
diaspora and government describe as "genocide," fuelling demands for
compensation.
Turkey says that, although Armenians died during deportations in 1915,
many Turks also lost their lives in attacks carried out by Armenian
gangs in Anatolia.
In April this year, Turkey's then-prime minister-now president-Recep
Tayyip ErdoÄ?an, became the first Turkish statesman to offer
condolences for the Armenian deaths.
As diplomatic ties between Ankara and Yerevan stall, engagement
between the two countries is now mainly through non-governmental
groups and civil society.
Karapetyan's family is originally from Turkey's eastern city of Van
which was once an important center of Armenian culture.
When Karapetyan had a chance to visit Istanbul for the first time in
2004, he didn't want it "because I was prejudiced about Turks and
Turkey."
"I said I would never visit eastern Turkey, historical Armenian land,
because it is painful," he adds.
Speaking in Turkey's Aegean province of Izmir he says: "I couldn't
imagine even talking with a Turkish person because Turks were our
enemies. When I started to communicate with Turkish intellectuals, I
saw that it wasn't true."
Karapetyan has since been working on normalization projects, first
between Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia and then Armenia and Turkey,
that bring together civil society and non-governmental organizations.
He recalls his first visit to Van in eastern Turkey where his
grandfather was born.
"It was OK," he says, reflectively. "I wouldn't say it was painful, no.
"My grandfather, who died in 1994, had always dreamed about going back
to his hometown, to see the Armenian Cathedral of the Holy Cross on
Akdamar Island in Lake Van. It was gorgeous. It was also reconstructed
under the current [Turkish] administration."
According to Karapetyan, Armenia was a closed society during the
Soviet era and the 1915 events were not openly discussed as a result
of Russian central government policies until 1965 when Moscow
permitted the building of a memorial in Yerevan.
Turkish-Armenian relations also mean Armenian-Azerbaijan relations as
Turkey closed its border in 1993 to protest Yerevan's occupation of
Nagorno-Karabakh, a disputed territory between Armenia and Azerbaijan.
"When the Turkish government decided to close the border, it was
perceived in Armenia as a hostile step. It increased the notion that
Azerbaijanis and Turks are the same and they are against Armenia,"
says Karapetyan.
Turkey's foreign ministry says Ankara was one of the first to
recognize the independence of Armenia in 1991 and "actively supported
the country's integration with regional and Euro-Atlantic
organizations."
"It is not only an Azerbaijan-Armenia problem, there is also Russia,"
says Mensur Akgün, a professor from Istanbul Kültür University, who
adds that today Moscow almost wholly controls Armenia's security, for
example at airports.
Pointing out that Armenia agreed to become part of a Russia-led custom
union on October 10, Akgün foresees that Moscow's influence in the
Caucasus country will increase.
The Russia-led Eurasian Economic Union will come into force on Jan. 1,
2015 and it is seen as an alternative to the EU for Russia and former
Soviet countries.
One of the Armenian participants in the project is Gayane Arustamyan,
a 44-year-old freelance journalist who was born in Nagorno-Karabakh
says, "The new custom union limits the independence of Armenia."
Arustamyan points to Russian influence on Armenia-Turkey relations:
"The question of influence on the Caucasus becomes an issue for
Russia," she says.
"Armenia is on the verge of losing its independence. It depends on
Russia. In Armenia people are demanding a halt to this process. The
opposition doesn't want to be part of a custom union.
"I am one of those people who are against it. Because it doesn't
matter how small your country is you should govern yourself," she
adds.
In May this year, Turkey' current prime minister, then-foreign
minister, penned an article for British newspaper The Guardian. Ahmet
DavutoÄ?lu recalled a protocol signed in Zurich on Oct. 10, 2009 -
derailed at the last moment - which would have normalized relations
between Turkey and Armenia.
DavutoÄ?lu wrote: "I believe we now have the opportunity to recapture
the engagement and reconciliation that eluded us in 2009."
"What we share is a 'common pain' inherited from our grandparents," he added.
Another traveller is Meri Musinyan, 37, from Yerevan who works for
state-owned Public Radio of Armenia.
According to Musinyan, who visited Turkey for the first time last
October, ordinary people living in the two countries have a huge role
to play in normalizing relations.
"This kind of visits are very important because governments make their
politics but the ordinary people should talk to each other," she says.
"I have met a lot of people who are open-minded and very open to
discussing things which were dangerous to discuss before" she
explained, adding that she was not aware that in Turkey the new
generation and intellectuals were more ready to discuss the 1915
events.
http://www.dailysabah.com/nation/2014/10/18/reporters-meet-to-turn-a-new-page-on-turkisharmenian-relations
From: Baghdasarian
Oct 18 2014
REPORTERS MEET TO TURN A NEW PAGE ON TURKISH-ARMENIAN RELATIONS
AA
IZMIR ' A new engagement program brought together 18 journalists and
bloggers, 10 from Armenia and eight from Turkey, to spend a fortnight
travelling around Turkey and Armenia, two countries that share a
divided and troubled past.
Vazgen Karapetyan, 44, studied medicine but never practiced, claiming
it was difficult to find a job in Armenia just after its independence
from the Soviet Union in 1991. He is the deputy director of the
Yerevan-based Eurasia Partnership Foundation, a mainly U.S. and
EU-backed institution. "If, fifteen years ago, someone had told me
that I would be working on Armenia-Turkey relations, I would have
said: 'No, you are joking'," Karapetyan says.
The tour claims that it will provide an opportunity for participants
to explore the neighboring country while rediscovering their own
nation.
Relations between Ankara and Yerevan have historically been poor owing
to bitter disagreements over events in 1915 which the Armenian
diaspora and government describe as "genocide," fuelling demands for
compensation.
Turkey says that, although Armenians died during deportations in 1915,
many Turks also lost their lives in attacks carried out by Armenian
gangs in Anatolia.
In April this year, Turkey's then-prime minister-now president-Recep
Tayyip ErdoÄ?an, became the first Turkish statesman to offer
condolences for the Armenian deaths.
As diplomatic ties between Ankara and Yerevan stall, engagement
between the two countries is now mainly through non-governmental
groups and civil society.
Karapetyan's family is originally from Turkey's eastern city of Van
which was once an important center of Armenian culture.
When Karapetyan had a chance to visit Istanbul for the first time in
2004, he didn't want it "because I was prejudiced about Turks and
Turkey."
"I said I would never visit eastern Turkey, historical Armenian land,
because it is painful," he adds.
Speaking in Turkey's Aegean province of Izmir he says: "I couldn't
imagine even talking with a Turkish person because Turks were our
enemies. When I started to communicate with Turkish intellectuals, I
saw that it wasn't true."
Karapetyan has since been working on normalization projects, first
between Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia and then Armenia and Turkey,
that bring together civil society and non-governmental organizations.
He recalls his first visit to Van in eastern Turkey where his
grandfather was born.
"It was OK," he says, reflectively. "I wouldn't say it was painful, no.
"My grandfather, who died in 1994, had always dreamed about going back
to his hometown, to see the Armenian Cathedral of the Holy Cross on
Akdamar Island in Lake Van. It was gorgeous. It was also reconstructed
under the current [Turkish] administration."
According to Karapetyan, Armenia was a closed society during the
Soviet era and the 1915 events were not openly discussed as a result
of Russian central government policies until 1965 when Moscow
permitted the building of a memorial in Yerevan.
Turkish-Armenian relations also mean Armenian-Azerbaijan relations as
Turkey closed its border in 1993 to protest Yerevan's occupation of
Nagorno-Karabakh, a disputed territory between Armenia and Azerbaijan.
"When the Turkish government decided to close the border, it was
perceived in Armenia as a hostile step. It increased the notion that
Azerbaijanis and Turks are the same and they are against Armenia,"
says Karapetyan.
Turkey's foreign ministry says Ankara was one of the first to
recognize the independence of Armenia in 1991 and "actively supported
the country's integration with regional and Euro-Atlantic
organizations."
"It is not only an Azerbaijan-Armenia problem, there is also Russia,"
says Mensur Akgün, a professor from Istanbul Kültür University, who
adds that today Moscow almost wholly controls Armenia's security, for
example at airports.
Pointing out that Armenia agreed to become part of a Russia-led custom
union on October 10, Akgün foresees that Moscow's influence in the
Caucasus country will increase.
The Russia-led Eurasian Economic Union will come into force on Jan. 1,
2015 and it is seen as an alternative to the EU for Russia and former
Soviet countries.
One of the Armenian participants in the project is Gayane Arustamyan,
a 44-year-old freelance journalist who was born in Nagorno-Karabakh
says, "The new custom union limits the independence of Armenia."
Arustamyan points to Russian influence on Armenia-Turkey relations:
"The question of influence on the Caucasus becomes an issue for
Russia," she says.
"Armenia is on the verge of losing its independence. It depends on
Russia. In Armenia people are demanding a halt to this process. The
opposition doesn't want to be part of a custom union.
"I am one of those people who are against it. Because it doesn't
matter how small your country is you should govern yourself," she
adds.
In May this year, Turkey' current prime minister, then-foreign
minister, penned an article for British newspaper The Guardian. Ahmet
DavutoÄ?lu recalled a protocol signed in Zurich on Oct. 10, 2009 -
derailed at the last moment - which would have normalized relations
between Turkey and Armenia.
DavutoÄ?lu wrote: "I believe we now have the opportunity to recapture
the engagement and reconciliation that eluded us in 2009."
"What we share is a 'common pain' inherited from our grandparents," he added.
Another traveller is Meri Musinyan, 37, from Yerevan who works for
state-owned Public Radio of Armenia.
According to Musinyan, who visited Turkey for the first time last
October, ordinary people living in the two countries have a huge role
to play in normalizing relations.
"This kind of visits are very important because governments make their
politics but the ordinary people should talk to each other," she says.
"I have met a lot of people who are open-minded and very open to
discussing things which were dangerous to discuss before" she
explained, adding that she was not aware that in Turkey the new
generation and intellectuals were more ready to discuss the 1915
events.
http://www.dailysabah.com/nation/2014/10/18/reporters-meet-to-turn-a-new-page-on-turkisharmenian-relations
From: Baghdasarian