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Siranuysh Papyan, Interviewer
Interview - 19 October 2014, 22:42
On October 10 your fellow veterans joined the rally of the three. What
is your position and where do you see yourself.
Whether on October 10 or some other day, I respect people when
they express their opinion. Being a military person, I do not want
to do politics. There is a fable about a shepherd who sees that
some dogs fight with one another while other dogs are lying and
looking in the direction from where wolves may come and kill the
sheep. I am like the watchdogs; I don't care about the dogs that
are fighting with one another. I care for what is happening in the
enemy's country. Russia, for example, is going to sell weapons of 5
billion dollars to Azerbaijan, I care what weapons it gets, with whom
it cooperates. And the domestic scramble will always be there. There
is a government and an opposition, and they will always fight with
each other. I cannot criticize any of them. Besides, the government
and the opposition in our country are in the same team and often
replace each other. I was in Artsakh in August and I saw opposition
guys there who had picked up guns, ready to defend the borders of
Armenia. When needed, we stand nip and tuck against the enemy.
Armenia signed the treaty on membership to the Eurasian Economic
Union. Do you see risks for Karabakh?
This treaty does not concern Karabakh because it was signed by Armenia
and Karabakh is a different state that remains independent.
And do you see a risk that BCPs will be set up between Armenia and
Karabakh?
I am not acquainted with that treaty, I don't know what BCPs should
be there. They may set up those to record movement of goods. But this
treaty has not been published yet, at least I have not read it and
I don't know what is written in it. For example, in the Soviet years
we were brought together and forced to speak against Solzhenitsyn's
writing that we have not read. I also signed that paper because I was
a Communist but I had not read it. Now, I haven't read the treaty
on membership to the Eurasian Economic Union and I cannot say much
about it. I only know that I am for joining the Eurasian economy,
we do not have another way out.
There is an opinion that the escalation in early August, as well as
its alleviation was guided by Russia. Do you share this opinion?
Russia had nothing to do with it, simply Aliyev wanted to score. He
trained special troops in NATO and ordered to trespass the border in
several places. Our private soldiers and officers stood up against
those special troops and pushed them back. They wanted to cross
the border to ravage here, and later Aliyev would tell Sargsyan
"look what we can do, we'll do more". But he was hit hard and was
upset. I don't think that Russia has anything to do with this. How
do you imagine that Russia can cause tension at our border?
Russia was said likely to force Serzh Sargsyan to make concessions.
Now Russia is not doing well, the United States and the EU are imposing
sanctions, and in this situation Russia cannot be for or against any of
the sides to the Karabakh conflict. Russia wants to have good relations
with both Armenia and Azerbaijan out of its national interests. Armenia
is a CSTO member where it is stated that CSTO must protect us in case
of aggression against Armenia. But there is no a word on Karabakh.
What is your opinion on Surik Khachatryan's reappointment as governor
of Syunik?
If one searches the web, one will see what opinions are expressed
about him. Like everyone, I have a negative opinion on this.
What contribution did Surik Khachatryan have during the years of the
war? Do you remember anything related to him?
I don't want to speak about it. 20 years have passed, why would
I remember?
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Siranuysh Papyan, Interviewer
Interview - 19 October 2014, 22:42
On October 10 your fellow veterans joined the rally of the three. What
is your position and where do you see yourself.
Whether on October 10 or some other day, I respect people when
they express their opinion. Being a military person, I do not want
to do politics. There is a fable about a shepherd who sees that
some dogs fight with one another while other dogs are lying and
looking in the direction from where wolves may come and kill the
sheep. I am like the watchdogs; I don't care about the dogs that
are fighting with one another. I care for what is happening in the
enemy's country. Russia, for example, is going to sell weapons of 5
billion dollars to Azerbaijan, I care what weapons it gets, with whom
it cooperates. And the domestic scramble will always be there. There
is a government and an opposition, and they will always fight with
each other. I cannot criticize any of them. Besides, the government
and the opposition in our country are in the same team and often
replace each other. I was in Artsakh in August and I saw opposition
guys there who had picked up guns, ready to defend the borders of
Armenia. When needed, we stand nip and tuck against the enemy.
Armenia signed the treaty on membership to the Eurasian Economic
Union. Do you see risks for Karabakh?
This treaty does not concern Karabakh because it was signed by Armenia
and Karabakh is a different state that remains independent.
And do you see a risk that BCPs will be set up between Armenia and
Karabakh?
I am not acquainted with that treaty, I don't know what BCPs should
be there. They may set up those to record movement of goods. But this
treaty has not been published yet, at least I have not read it and
I don't know what is written in it. For example, in the Soviet years
we were brought together and forced to speak against Solzhenitsyn's
writing that we have not read. I also signed that paper because I was
a Communist but I had not read it. Now, I haven't read the treaty
on membership to the Eurasian Economic Union and I cannot say much
about it. I only know that I am for joining the Eurasian economy,
we do not have another way out.
There is an opinion that the escalation in early August, as well as
its alleviation was guided by Russia. Do you share this opinion?
Russia had nothing to do with it, simply Aliyev wanted to score. He
trained special troops in NATO and ordered to trespass the border in
several places. Our private soldiers and officers stood up against
those special troops and pushed them back. They wanted to cross
the border to ravage here, and later Aliyev would tell Sargsyan
"look what we can do, we'll do more". But he was hit hard and was
upset. I don't think that Russia has anything to do with this. How
do you imagine that Russia can cause tension at our border?
Russia was said likely to force Serzh Sargsyan to make concessions.
Now Russia is not doing well, the United States and the EU are imposing
sanctions, and in this situation Russia cannot be for or against any of
the sides to the Karabakh conflict. Russia wants to have good relations
with both Armenia and Azerbaijan out of its national interests. Armenia
is a CSTO member where it is stated that CSTO must protect us in case
of aggression against Armenia. But there is no a word on Karabakh.
What is your opinion on Surik Khachatryan's reappointment as governor
of Syunik?
If one searches the web, one will see what opinions are expressed
about him. Like everyone, I have a negative opinion on this.
What contribution did Surik Khachatryan have during the years of the
war? Do you remember anything related to him?
I don't want to speak about it. 20 years have passed, why would
I remember?
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