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    Allen: Why I had to say yes


    Joan Allen tells Matt Wolf why she jumped at the chance to spout iambic
    pentameters in Sally Potter's latest take on love

    12 August 2005
    The Independent/UK

    In a milieu, namely Hollywood, in which beauty is skin deep, Joan
    Allen possesses the kind of natural radiance you can't buy off the
    shelf. Sure, Allen doesn't make the cover of Heat and People: few
    performers the wrong side of 40 do. (The actress will turn 49 later
    this month.) But amid an environment that is harsher than ever to
    women of a certain age, Allen is working almost constantly - five
    films in the past two years - and with unwavering integrity and
    adventurousness, too: after all, not every actress would say yes to a
    film like Yes.

    "I just feel very fortunate that I've got to do interesting things
    with talented people," she says during a stopover in London, a city
    she has come to know pretty well in recent years. For the Mike Binder
    film The Upside of Anger, co-starring Kevin Costner, for which she has
    won rave reviews across the Atlantic, Allen lived in Notting Hill and
    was driven every day to Hampstead, which was substituting on screen
    for, of all places, suburban Detroit. Sally Potter's film Yes, which
    opened in the UK last week, found the actress taking up residence in
    the East End. And yet, she laughs, "I still can't get my bearings
    here."

    The more immediate question is whether filmgoers will find their
    bearings as regards Yes, a movie told not just in verse but in rhymed
    iambic pentameter. As one might expect from the director of Orlando
    and The Man Who Cried, Potter's movie is a love story but of a
    particularly rarefied, high-flown kind, and it also registers as a
    none-too-veiled political commentary.

    Whatever one's reaction, it's hard not to respond to the burnished
    intensity of co-star Simon Abkarian, an Armenian-Lebanese actor who
    was in fact cast in The Man Who Cried but cut from the finished
    feature. And, especially, to the unforced luminosity of Allen, here
    playing an American scientist based in London who finds refuge from a
    chilly marriage to an English diplomat (Sam Neill at his most severe)
    in an affair with the Lebanese refugee played by Abkarian.

    The two principals go only by the names She and He. It can't be easy
    acting archetypes - characters who, Allen acknowledges, "represent, I
    suppose, the Eastern and Western worlds, though I don't want to sound
    pretentious or anything". What's important, she says, is Potter's
    interest in bridging different cultures and merging the political and
    the personal at a time when too few movies choose that route. "I was
    really drawn to Sally's material because of that question of how we
    really talk to each other; how do we try to understand." Potter began
    writing the script of Yes on 12 September 2001, a date that resonates
    throughout the finished film. Says Allen: "Somebody said to Sally that
    it was the first therapeutic response to 9/11 because we are all
    sharing a dialogue. It's not just one person talking while the other
    listens."

    Allen's capacity for listening - for a restraint that tends to gather
    force throughout a film - can often make her the quiet centre of a
    noisy movie. She got the first of her three Oscar nominations a decade
    ago for playing Pat Nixon, wife of the disgraced American president,
    in the Oliver Stone biopic Nixon, and was nominated again the
    following year for her role in Nicholas Hytner's film version of The
    Crucible. "On film, I like work that is more introverted," she tells
    me, citing Robert Duvall's low-key contribution to The Godfather as
    the sort of acting she admires. To that extent, her contribution to
    Yes is as remarkable for what goes unspoken as for the language that
    Allen gets to speak, not least a scene in which colour visibly drains
    from her face.

    Nixon wasn't Allen's first big-screen splash. In 1986, she played
    Brian Cox's blind victim in Manhunter, the first of the Hannibal
    Lecter movies, while she was Jeff Bridges' wife in the little-seen but
    much-admired Francis Ford Coppola film Tucker: The Man and His Dream
    (1988). A later biopic, When the Sky Falls (2000), cast Allen as a
    semi-fictionalised version of the murdered Irish journalist Veronica
    Guerin. "It was very hard to understand her character," says Allen,
    reflecting on a film about a crusading woman and mother who dared to
    invade the Irish underworld. "People would go, 'Why did she do this?',
    and I was like, 'Because she did'. You wouldn't be asking that if she
    had been a man."

    Still, her range of acting opportunities over the years seems even now
    to come as something of a surprise to Allen, who, by her own
    admission, grew up "a gal from a little-horse Illinois town surrounded
    by cornfields". The youngest of four children, Allen had never before
    been to New York when she first worked at the Lincoln Center for the
    Performing Arts in the early 1980s in CP Taylor's play And A
    Nightingale Sang. That production was part of the widening reach of
    the Steppenwolf Theatre Company of Chicago, where Allen acted
    alongside then-unknowns John Malkovich and Gary Sinise while working
    as a secretary to pay the rent.

    Allen soon began appearing on Broadway, winning a 1988 Tony Award for
    her role in Lanford Wilson's Burn This, and a nomination the next year
    for Wendy Wasserstein's The Heidi Chronicles. But she hasn't done a
    Broadway play since 1989, the dual result of raising a daughter,
    Sadie, who is now 11, and her shifting attitude toward that
    medium. "I'm just not as interested in doing the same thing every
    night; I used to love it, but it just doesn't interest me the way it
    used to," she says.

    Besides, it's not as if Allen has much time to miss the theatre, as
    she ricochets between high-profile films such as Face/Off and The
    Contender (which brought her a third Oscar nod, her first for Best
    Actress) and art-house fare like Yes. Still to come is a film, Pushers
    Needed, written and directed by the Irish actor Jimmy Smallhorne,
    about four working-class Dublin women who take a visit to Lourdes with
    their local church. (Brenda Blethyn is among the others.) "It's
    called Pushers Needed because we push the wheelchairs of the
    crippled," says Allen, laughing at the misconception that the film
    might have anything to do with drugs. Another adventure for an actress
    who by now is used to them? Allen smiles and nods. "I haven't done
    much world travelling, I have to say," she is quick to comment, "but I
    have been to Lourdes." Filmgoers keeping a keen eye on this fine
    actress will give thanks for that.

    'Yes' is on limited release; Matt Wolf is London theatre critic for
    'Variety'



    In a milieu, namely Hollywood, in which beauty is skin deep, Joan
    Allen possesses the kind of natural radiance you can't buy off the
    shelf. Sure, Allen doesn't make the cover of Heat and People: few
    performers the wrong side of 40 do. (The actress will turn 49 later
    this month.) But amid an environment that is harsher than ever to
    women of a certain age, Allen is working almost constantly - five
    films in the past two years - and with unwavering integrity and
    adventurousness, too: after all, not every actress would say yes to a
    film like Yes.

    "I just feel very fortunate that I've got to do interesting things
    with talented people," she says during a stopover in London, a city
    she has come to know pretty well in recent years. For the Mike Binder
    film The Upside of Anger, co-starring Kevin Costner, for which she has
    won rave reviews across the Atlantic, Allen lived in Notting Hill and
    was driven every day to Hampstead, which was substituting on screen
    for, of all places, suburban Detroit. Sally Potter's film Yes, which
    opened in the UK last week, found the actress taking up residence in
    the East End. And yet, she laughs, "I still can't get my bearings
    here."

    The more immediate question is whether filmgoers will find their
    bearings as regards Yes, a movie told not just in verse but in rhymed
    iambic pentameter. As one might expect from the director of Orlando
    and The Man Who Cried, Potter's movie is a love story but of a
    particularly rarefied, high-flown kind, and it also registers as a
    none-too-veiled political commentary.

    Whatever one's reaction, it's hard not to respond to the burnished
    intensity of co-star Simon Abkarian, an Armenian-Lebanese actor who
    was in fact cast in The Man Who Cried but cut from the finished
    feature. And, especially, to the unforced luminosity of Allen, here
    playing an American scientist based in London who finds refuge from a
    chilly marriage to an English diplomat (Sam Neill at his most severe)
    in an affair with the Lebanese refugee played by Abkarian.

    The two principals go only by the names She and He. It can't be easy
    acting archetypes - characters who, Allen acknowledges, "represent, I
    suppose, the Eastern and Western worlds, though I don't want to sound
    pretentious or anything". What's important, she says, is Potter's
    interest in bridging different cultures and merging the political and
    the personal at a time when too few movies choose that route. "I was
    really drawn to Sally's material because of that question of how we
    really talk to each other; how do we try to understand." Potter began
    writing the script of Yes on 12 September 2001, a date that resonates
    throughout the finished film. Says Allen: "Somebody said to Sally that
    it was the first therapeutic response to 9/11 because we are all
    sharing a dialogue. It's not just one person talking while the other
    listens."

    Allen's capacity for listening - for a restraint that tends to gather
    force throughout a film - can often make her the quiet centre of a
    noisy movie. She got the first of her three Oscar nominations a decade
    ago for playing Pat Nixon, wife of the disgraced American president,
    in the Oliver Stone biopic Nixon, and was nominated again the
    following year for her role in Nicholas Hytner's film version of The
    Crucible. "On film, I like work that is more introverted," she tells
    me, citing Robert Duvall's low-key contribution to The Godfather as
    the sort of acting she admires. To that extent, her contribution to
    Yes is as remarkable for what goes unspoken as for the language that
    Allen gets to speak, not least a scene in which colour visibly drains
    from her face.


    Nixon wasn't Allen's first big-screen splash. In 1986, she played
    Brian Cox's blind victim in Manhunter, the first of the Hannibal
    Lecter movies, while she was Jeff Bridges' wife in the little-seen but
    much-admired Francis Ford Coppola film Tucker: The Man and His Dream
    (1988). A later biopic, When the Sky Falls (2000), cast Allen as a
    semi-fictionalised version of the murdered Irish journalist Veronica
    Guerin. "It was very hard to understand her character," says Allen,
    reflecting on a film about a crusading woman and mother who dared to
    invade the Irish underworld. "People would go, 'Why did she do this?',
    and I was like, 'Because she did'. You wouldn't be asking that if she
    had been a man."

    Still, her range of acting opportunities over the years seems even now
    to come as something of a surprise to Allen, who, by her own
    admission, grew up "a gal from a little-horse Illinois town surrounded
    by cornfields". The youngest of four children, Allen had never before
    been to New York when she first worked at the Lincoln Center for the
    Performing Arts in the early 1980s in CP Taylor's play And A
    Nightingale Sang. That production was part of the widening reach of
    the Steppenwolf Theatre Company of Chicago, where Allen acted
    alongside then-unknowns John Malkovich and Gary Sinise while working
    as a secretary to pay the rent.

    Allen soon began appearing on Broadway, winning a 1988 Tony Award for
    her role in Lanford Wilson's Burn This, and a nomination the next year
    for Wendy Wasserstein's The Heidi Chronicles. But she hasn't done a
    Broadway play since 1989, the dual result of raising a daughter,
    Sadie, who is now 11, and her shifting attitude toward that
    medium. "I'm just not as interested in doing the same thing every
    night; I used to love it, but it just doesn't interest me the way it
    used to," she says.

    Besides, it's not as if Allen has much time to miss the theatre, as
    she ricochets between high-profile films such as Face/Off and The
    Contender (which brought her a third Oscar nod, her first for Best
    Actress) and art-house fare like Yes. Still to come is a film, Pushers
    Needed, written and directed by the Irish actor Jimmy Smallhorne,
    about four working-class Dublin women who take a visit to Lourdes with
    their local church. (Brenda Blethyn is among the others.) "It's
    called Pushers Needed because we push the wheelchairs of the
    crippled," says Allen, laughing at the misconception that the film
    might have anything to do with drugs. Another adventure for an actress
    who by now is used to them? Allen smiles and nods. "I haven't done
    much world travelling, I have to say," she is quick to comment, "but I
    have been to Lourdes." Filmgoers keeping a keen eye on this fine
    actress will give thanks for that.

    'Yes' is on limited release; Matt Wolf is London theatre critic for
    'Variety'
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