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NATO - POLITICAL STRAIGHTJACKET
Siranuysh Papyan
Story from Lragir.am News:
http://www.lragir.am/engsrc/interview25595.html
Published: 16:51:13 - 27/03/2012
Interview with Ashot Manucharyan, ex-member of Karabakh Committee,
on NATO-Armenia relations
Mr. Manucharyan, what are your thoughts on NATO-Armenia relations? Do
you see the alliance as a guarantor of security?
NATO is one of the objective realities of this world and we must
take it for granted, as we take for granted the sun, earthquakes
or tsunami. However, NATO has several peculiarities. NATO is an
instrument of the world of greed and wealth which has exhausted
itself. This world is already passing away, though its politics had a
colossal role in the history of mankind, insuring the development of
science, technology, exploiting the craving of man to have, possess,
forced to walk forward. Now, however, man has gone so high that it
is becoming an obstacle. NATO is an instrument of this system, and
nobody can explain the goals of the alliance in Iraq or Afghanistan,
for instance. NATO's declared goals - democracy, civil society -
turn into a nuclear bomb at some moment. A few days ago 9 children
were killed in Afghanistan, and Armenia is an accomplice to this
because it takes part in NATO action.
Does it mean that we should not intend to join NATO at all?
I think NATO is a dangerous instrument for the future world. The
alliance must replace this philosophy fully but it does not mean that
we should not get in touch with it. Especially that NATO cannot change
its philosophy unless others keep contact with it. However, Armenia
had better publicly refuse participation in the action in Afghanistan.
Most people think that in the world of deals it is necessary to enter
into deals, prove one's importance to the United States to make sure
it will give some money to buy a pair of jeans but why kill children
in Afghanistan? Three Jewish children were killed in Toulouse, and the
minister attended their funerals, but even the ambassador of France
did not attend the funeral of 9 children killed with the complicity
of France.
This is NATO's philosophy, and the reason is that the issue of the
right of the great power to robbery is being addressed. Are we willing
to participate in this? NATO is the main support of the United States
and its main ally, the United Kingdom.
The ministry of defense attaches importance to the relations with
NATO in the process of reform in the armed forces. Is it possible to
consider this cooperation as successful?
NATO army is an army of mechanical people, robots. In certain cases,
it increases effectiveness but in some cases human qualities acquire
special importance. Especially when it is necessary to drop shells on
children, destroy people's homes to make sure your country has access
to additional profit. I do not think that we need to learn from NATO.
I think at one time the Armenian army had a clear philosophy and
traditions. Look, there is no Turkish coffee in Vienna, there is
Armenian coffee because the Armenians had an important role in the
defense of Vienna. This can be observed in a number of world capitals
because the Armenians had an effective military system.
NATO is a military and political organization but in today's world the
political cluster must occupy more space - 90% - while the military
cluster must be used in extreme cases. This is not in place in the
case of NATO because it resolves the problems of the predator-human
while it requires a lot of destruction to produce more later. Whenever
this philosophy is reviewed, it will be obvious that the problems in
the world must be resolved by political methods.
By what methods are they now resolved?
You join a big "team", and it announces to support your security. In
fact, it addresses its own problems because security is ensured by
way of political components otherwise you will receive the brunt,
being a member of one system of another. NATO is a straightjacket
for these countries.
Hence, there is no difference between the CSTO and NATO?
This model of civilization has been artificially introduced in the
countries of the CSTO. But since it is not something familiar, it
acquires more vulgar forms. There is a similar system in the CSTO,
Russia and its expansion goal is also there. They simply want to
persuade us that if we leave one system and join another system, we
will have more security and democracy. In fact, democracy has nothing
to do with the power of people. This is an artificial cover for the
intentions of manipulation of countries. Democracy comes together
with its philosophy at the heart of which is the predator-human,
the consumer. A person craving for satisfaction always wishes to
improve enjoyment. This person depends on his own stomach. In a model
democracy the governments are formed by such people. The government
depends on this person, this person depends on his stomach, and the
planning center Washington decides how full this stomach should be.
In fact, everyone accepts the rules of the game?
Certainly, but let us admit that you and me are not there. I mean
those who appoint the president, ministers, oligarchs, who must lead
us along the assigned way. But since the Armenians are wily people,
we give Caesar's to Caesar, and think what to do. We are not there
but we may appear there. Cooperation with NATO on the political and
civil platforms could be quite interesting. For instance, the alliance
has major problems with Iran, it has made a noise all over the world
but for whatever reason Pakistan's nuclear bomb is not a problem
for the world. Who said that thousands of Pakistani daredevils are
not a challenge to the world whereas the nuclear bomb created by
Ayatollah Khomeini threatens the world? There must be no problems
with Iran in future but for this purpose we need to cooperate with
NATO in the political and civil sphere, human relations, which are
not sufficiently present in the machine of NATO.
NATO implements environmental, civil projects with Armenia.
There are main and additional projects, and I suggest interchanging
them. It will be so in the future world. For instance, it is necessary
to form a real platform for a deeper dialogue with Iran. It is possible
that the first dialogue will be between Christian Armenia and Islamic
Iran, a dialogue on what these civilizations want. There is no such
dialogue now, there are formats of inter-civilization dialogue worked
out by the Western civilization in which Iran participates but this
is not a deep dialogue on the future of the world, on how to achieve
it and resolve the current problems of the world in this context.
Didn't NATO change its philosophy after the cold war?
We witness a war after another, constant militaristic threats.
Unfortunately, what NATO does now to defend the mercantile world is
expressed in more cruel requirements and actions.
Russia ensures the security of Armenia in both regional and global
terms. The global standpoint is that Pakistan which has not recognized
Armenia is a threat to it but if it tries to undertake something,
it will be prevented. Or Turkey which launches military action in
Armenia and is declared a friendly country by NATO has not recognized
the genocide yet. Moreover, it announced during the war in Karabakh
that it may intervene to support Azerbaijan instead of learning a
history lesson and admit that the Armenian people have the reason to
be offended. It was only stopped by Russia's statement that it may
trigger World War III.
Siranuysh Papyan
Story from Lragir.am News:
http://www.lragir.am/engsrc/interview25595.html
Published: 16:51:13 - 27/03/2012
Interview with Ashot Manucharyan, ex-member of Karabakh Committee,
on NATO-Armenia relations
Mr. Manucharyan, what are your thoughts on NATO-Armenia relations? Do
you see the alliance as a guarantor of security?
NATO is one of the objective realities of this world and we must
take it for granted, as we take for granted the sun, earthquakes
or tsunami. However, NATO has several peculiarities. NATO is an
instrument of the world of greed and wealth which has exhausted
itself. This world is already passing away, though its politics had a
colossal role in the history of mankind, insuring the development of
science, technology, exploiting the craving of man to have, possess,
forced to walk forward. Now, however, man has gone so high that it
is becoming an obstacle. NATO is an instrument of this system, and
nobody can explain the goals of the alliance in Iraq or Afghanistan,
for instance. NATO's declared goals - democracy, civil society -
turn into a nuclear bomb at some moment. A few days ago 9 children
were killed in Afghanistan, and Armenia is an accomplice to this
because it takes part in NATO action.
Does it mean that we should not intend to join NATO at all?
I think NATO is a dangerous instrument for the future world. The
alliance must replace this philosophy fully but it does not mean that
we should not get in touch with it. Especially that NATO cannot change
its philosophy unless others keep contact with it. However, Armenia
had better publicly refuse participation in the action in Afghanistan.
Most people think that in the world of deals it is necessary to enter
into deals, prove one's importance to the United States to make sure
it will give some money to buy a pair of jeans but why kill children
in Afghanistan? Three Jewish children were killed in Toulouse, and the
minister attended their funerals, but even the ambassador of France
did not attend the funeral of 9 children killed with the complicity
of France.
This is NATO's philosophy, and the reason is that the issue of the
right of the great power to robbery is being addressed. Are we willing
to participate in this? NATO is the main support of the United States
and its main ally, the United Kingdom.
The ministry of defense attaches importance to the relations with
NATO in the process of reform in the armed forces. Is it possible to
consider this cooperation as successful?
NATO army is an army of mechanical people, robots. In certain cases,
it increases effectiveness but in some cases human qualities acquire
special importance. Especially when it is necessary to drop shells on
children, destroy people's homes to make sure your country has access
to additional profit. I do not think that we need to learn from NATO.
I think at one time the Armenian army had a clear philosophy and
traditions. Look, there is no Turkish coffee in Vienna, there is
Armenian coffee because the Armenians had an important role in the
defense of Vienna. This can be observed in a number of world capitals
because the Armenians had an effective military system.
NATO is a military and political organization but in today's world the
political cluster must occupy more space - 90% - while the military
cluster must be used in extreme cases. This is not in place in the
case of NATO because it resolves the problems of the predator-human
while it requires a lot of destruction to produce more later. Whenever
this philosophy is reviewed, it will be obvious that the problems in
the world must be resolved by political methods.
By what methods are they now resolved?
You join a big "team", and it announces to support your security. In
fact, it addresses its own problems because security is ensured by
way of political components otherwise you will receive the brunt,
being a member of one system of another. NATO is a straightjacket
for these countries.
Hence, there is no difference between the CSTO and NATO?
This model of civilization has been artificially introduced in the
countries of the CSTO. But since it is not something familiar, it
acquires more vulgar forms. There is a similar system in the CSTO,
Russia and its expansion goal is also there. They simply want to
persuade us that if we leave one system and join another system, we
will have more security and democracy. In fact, democracy has nothing
to do with the power of people. This is an artificial cover for the
intentions of manipulation of countries. Democracy comes together
with its philosophy at the heart of which is the predator-human,
the consumer. A person craving for satisfaction always wishes to
improve enjoyment. This person depends on his own stomach. In a model
democracy the governments are formed by such people. The government
depends on this person, this person depends on his stomach, and the
planning center Washington decides how full this stomach should be.
In fact, everyone accepts the rules of the game?
Certainly, but let us admit that you and me are not there. I mean
those who appoint the president, ministers, oligarchs, who must lead
us along the assigned way. But since the Armenians are wily people,
we give Caesar's to Caesar, and think what to do. We are not there
but we may appear there. Cooperation with NATO on the political and
civil platforms could be quite interesting. For instance, the alliance
has major problems with Iran, it has made a noise all over the world
but for whatever reason Pakistan's nuclear bomb is not a problem
for the world. Who said that thousands of Pakistani daredevils are
not a challenge to the world whereas the nuclear bomb created by
Ayatollah Khomeini threatens the world? There must be no problems
with Iran in future but for this purpose we need to cooperate with
NATO in the political and civil sphere, human relations, which are
not sufficiently present in the machine of NATO.
NATO implements environmental, civil projects with Armenia.
There are main and additional projects, and I suggest interchanging
them. It will be so in the future world. For instance, it is necessary
to form a real platform for a deeper dialogue with Iran. It is possible
that the first dialogue will be between Christian Armenia and Islamic
Iran, a dialogue on what these civilizations want. There is no such
dialogue now, there are formats of inter-civilization dialogue worked
out by the Western civilization in which Iran participates but this
is not a deep dialogue on the future of the world, on how to achieve
it and resolve the current problems of the world in this context.
Didn't NATO change its philosophy after the cold war?
We witness a war after another, constant militaristic threats.
Unfortunately, what NATO does now to defend the mercantile world is
expressed in more cruel requirements and actions.
Russia ensures the security of Armenia in both regional and global
terms. The global standpoint is that Pakistan which has not recognized
Armenia is a threat to it but if it tries to undertake something,
it will be prevented. Or Turkey which launches military action in
Armenia and is declared a friendly country by NATO has not recognized
the genocide yet. Moreover, it announced during the war in Karabakh
that it may intervene to support Azerbaijan instead of learning a
history lesson and admit that the Armenian people have the reason to
be offended. It was only stopped by Russia's statement that it may
trigger World War III.