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Baku commands are implemented in the PACE with a military discipline
September 6 2014
"The estimates are preliminary. In fact, it is not an estimate rather
than listing of the situation, news and their impressions. Much
importance is given to the upcoming events, including the stance of
the political forces to the constitutional reforms. The main tasks are
also the issues related to judicial and justice systems reforms,
transparency in police activities and the underway operations thereof.
The positive thing is that, despite Armenia is in war now, it has
passed the law on alternative service, which is in force and does not
cause any serious comments and objections for the other parties", said
the leader of ARF faction, Armen Rustamyan, in the conversation with
Aravot.am, referring to discussions held in the PACE Monitoring
Committee. Note that on September 3, at the PACE Monitoring Committee
closed-door session, the co-rapporteurs on Armenia, Axel Fischer and
Alan Mill, presented the results of their visit to Armenia on June
16-18. The Monitoring Committee closed-door session was attended by
the Head of the Armenian delegation to PACE, Hermine Naghdalyan, and a
delegation member, Armen Rustamyan, representing Armenia. According to
our interlocutor, further on also the Azerbaijani delegate, in his
speech, tried to distort the facts by presenting allegedly a great
violation that the President of Armenia has visited NKR, that the
Syrian-Armenian refugee are relocated in these areas and so on. In his
response, Armen Rustamyan had noted that the visits to NKR or the fact
that Armenia is dealing with relocation of refugees, instead of
introducing it as violations, Azerbaijan should stop causing a
misunderstanding to the CE, give up with its practice of a "black
list", which includes also some delegates present at the session. When
presenting the border situation, the Azerbaijani delegate cast the
blame totally to the Armenian side. "We presented the reality that the
real violation and infringement of the value system is just the
escalation of the war, which Azerbaijan is currently doing in front of
everyone's eyes. I directly told him, you attacked, naturally you were
pushed back, naturally you have loses, much more than our side. First
to attack, then having losses after the attack and then to come here
and complain? This is just an Azerbaijani logic. It's enough to put
this structure into misunderstanding, lead a direction suitable to
your campaign," said Armen Rustamyan. Later on, a discussion on
Azerbaijan was held, the main theme of which was the presence of
political prisoners in our neighboring country. "The most ridiculous
thing was that Leyla Yunus is accused of conveying confidential
information in favor of Armenia, and is considered to be a traitor.
The events took such a turn that we defend Leyla Yunus, but there are
people who know her as a defender of human rights and so on," said
Armen Rustamyan, adding that the Azerbaijani side is acting followed
by the same logic: to use the NKR conflict to get rid of all such
issues. "Now, they have introduced the notion of the "fifth column" in
the list, and everyone who, in their opinion, are exercising betrayal,
are included in this list." To the question of what was the attitude
of the members of the Monitoring Committee to these discussions, Armen
Rustamyan responded that it was obvious to everyone that an event
happened just a month ago cannot be turned upside down and push the
Azerbaijan's viewpoint forward. "But we all know what kind of serious
lobbying Azerbaijan conducts in the Council of Europe and this is our
biggest challenge," he said. And to the question of what expectations
are there pertaining to the final documents, Armen Rustamyan said that
for example, rapporteur in Azerbaijan issue stated that he was given
recordings of the talk, etc. with the third party, which he cannot but
consider. "To think that in the future a more complete and
comprehensive assessment will be given to both Armenia's and
Azerbaijan's processes, I am not optimistic as I know how the voting
is held in the Council of Europe and under what influence they are. If
once we were talking about some interest, now, these people are so
deep involved into the lobby that they are implementing everything
instructed to them from Baku with a military discipline. Now, we have
a new quality in the Council of Europe. If a voting is expected in
favor of Azerbaijan, everyone like one command are present so that
there is no even a place to sit," concluded Armen Rustamyan. To the
question of so, what Armenia should do, our interlocutor said that he
will talk about later on.
Nelly GRIGORYAN
Read more at: http://en.aravot.am/2014/09/06/166801/
September 6 2014
"The estimates are preliminary. In fact, it is not an estimate rather
than listing of the situation, news and their impressions. Much
importance is given to the upcoming events, including the stance of
the political forces to the constitutional reforms. The main tasks are
also the issues related to judicial and justice systems reforms,
transparency in police activities and the underway operations thereof.
The positive thing is that, despite Armenia is in war now, it has
passed the law on alternative service, which is in force and does not
cause any serious comments and objections for the other parties", said
the leader of ARF faction, Armen Rustamyan, in the conversation with
Aravot.am, referring to discussions held in the PACE Monitoring
Committee. Note that on September 3, at the PACE Monitoring Committee
closed-door session, the co-rapporteurs on Armenia, Axel Fischer and
Alan Mill, presented the results of their visit to Armenia on June
16-18. The Monitoring Committee closed-door session was attended by
the Head of the Armenian delegation to PACE, Hermine Naghdalyan, and a
delegation member, Armen Rustamyan, representing Armenia. According to
our interlocutor, further on also the Azerbaijani delegate, in his
speech, tried to distort the facts by presenting allegedly a great
violation that the President of Armenia has visited NKR, that the
Syrian-Armenian refugee are relocated in these areas and so on. In his
response, Armen Rustamyan had noted that the visits to NKR or the fact
that Armenia is dealing with relocation of refugees, instead of
introducing it as violations, Azerbaijan should stop causing a
misunderstanding to the CE, give up with its practice of a "black
list", which includes also some delegates present at the session. When
presenting the border situation, the Azerbaijani delegate cast the
blame totally to the Armenian side. "We presented the reality that the
real violation and infringement of the value system is just the
escalation of the war, which Azerbaijan is currently doing in front of
everyone's eyes. I directly told him, you attacked, naturally you were
pushed back, naturally you have loses, much more than our side. First
to attack, then having losses after the attack and then to come here
and complain? This is just an Azerbaijani logic. It's enough to put
this structure into misunderstanding, lead a direction suitable to
your campaign," said Armen Rustamyan. Later on, a discussion on
Azerbaijan was held, the main theme of which was the presence of
political prisoners in our neighboring country. "The most ridiculous
thing was that Leyla Yunus is accused of conveying confidential
information in favor of Armenia, and is considered to be a traitor.
The events took such a turn that we defend Leyla Yunus, but there are
people who know her as a defender of human rights and so on," said
Armen Rustamyan, adding that the Azerbaijani side is acting followed
by the same logic: to use the NKR conflict to get rid of all such
issues. "Now, they have introduced the notion of the "fifth column" in
the list, and everyone who, in their opinion, are exercising betrayal,
are included in this list." To the question of what was the attitude
of the members of the Monitoring Committee to these discussions, Armen
Rustamyan responded that it was obvious to everyone that an event
happened just a month ago cannot be turned upside down and push the
Azerbaijan's viewpoint forward. "But we all know what kind of serious
lobbying Azerbaijan conducts in the Council of Europe and this is our
biggest challenge," he said. And to the question of what expectations
are there pertaining to the final documents, Armen Rustamyan said that
for example, rapporteur in Azerbaijan issue stated that he was given
recordings of the talk, etc. with the third party, which he cannot but
consider. "To think that in the future a more complete and
comprehensive assessment will be given to both Armenia's and
Azerbaijan's processes, I am not optimistic as I know how the voting
is held in the Council of Europe and under what influence they are. If
once we were talking about some interest, now, these people are so
deep involved into the lobby that they are implementing everything
instructed to them from Baku with a military discipline. Now, we have
a new quality in the Council of Europe. If a voting is expected in
favor of Azerbaijan, everyone like one command are present so that
there is no even a place to sit," concluded Armen Rustamyan. To the
question of so, what Armenia should do, our interlocutor said that he
will talk about later on.
Nelly GRIGORYAN
Read more at: http://en.aravot.am/2014/09/06/166801/